Use Robosats.com  

 have you used it? how reliable and secure is it? 

 It's really good, it's desensitized as well. Never had a problem.  

 If you wany, you can run it yourself. 

 Robosats is pretty good, I've used it many times 

 HodlHodl and Peach are also good 

 This is the way  

 Which lightning wallet do you use to fund the escrow? I was using Phoenix, but it recently stopped working. I haven’t done the legwork to figure out which lightning wallet to use, and lightning is always so difficult. 

 Not sure what you mean by escrow, I used to use Wos when I was doing it to fund the upfront fee and receive the sats, I use Phoenix now.  

 It matters, I just hard to see it. Think worse case scenario government crackdown and then you'll see it 

 @peachbitcoin, @hodlhodl and @Relai 🇨🇭 should all be NO KYC. 

 You should have two stacks one KYC and one NON KYC. 

 I'm also trying to find an answer to this question. 

#asknostr might have the answer  

 for anyone interested I just found this article:

https://stacker.news/items/461631 

 If bitcoin is ever confiscated by government for whatever reason they won't know exactly what you have.  Robosats, Agoradesk, and Bisq are great ways to get non kyc  

 You can also check out bisq. They just released their bisq2 version beta. 

 @bisq 

 Learn Vexl  

 on-chain non-kyc #Bitcoin : https://bisq.network/

lightning non-kyc #Bitcoin : https://learn.robosats.com/