Oddbean

Um, you can be pro immigration, respectful of all skin colors AND be concerned with getting so many immigrants at once that it’s a strain on public resources. Until the funds that pay for asylum seekers are voluntarily, I’m for closed borders. Taxpayers just want your best (H1Bs were pretty brown last time I checked).

Ah, an accelerationist! But look what resulted after the Soviet Union collapsed. I guess that was pre internet and pre bitcoin, and much more brutally and psychological damage on the populace. We need to get freedom tech / ideas into more hands before the collapse, no?

Communism still is a (maybe even the most) likely outcome of collapse. Many subcultures want the destruction but only one can seed the future. Those who focus on fighting against a system that cannot be saved will loose unless they are ahead of the other subcultures.

I think that would be accelerationist in the statist direction. Thats like encouraging people to burn down cities and steal from stores, and saying we will get less government as a result; no, I think that just gives the government the political influence to expand its power. Mass immigration is a plot to destabalize society, as things get worse it justifies authoritarian measures, but those authoritarian measures will only really be used to remove intellectual critics of the state. Where does the free market come in to fix anything when the government holds the monopoly on violence? If they want to destabalize society then they would shut down any attempt at private law enforcement.

That's the same statist nonsense Americans have been saying for over a hundred of years. Here is some anti Irish immigration propaganda from early 1900s, just swap Irish for whatever you don't like currently. Did the Irish destabilize America? Blaming immigrants is so classic and low IQ, come up with something original at least. Btw last I checked, the people burning down cities and looting stores are American citizens. You don't need mass immigration for that. https://image.nostr.build/46e8c5d6972dca415b55f5683adc4b1733169f1859bdc817933c74b9755eecc8.jpg

"Blaming immigrants" isnt something im interested in, I just stuck my neck out recently to get an immigrant from ghana the job he dreamed of, I catch a cup of coffee with security guards from somalia and south africa nightly, I shoot the shit with DCOs from pakistan, afghanistan, and iraq when the nights going slow, I turn over with a dayshift from mexico. Dont assume my intentions. You are glossing over the social effects of dumping masses of immigrants in concentrated areas with no regard for the people living there; its the difference between you inviting someone to stay at your home with the promise that they are getting a job and will pay your generosity back and be self sufficient, and me dropping a van full of homeless people in your living room and saying "dont worry, the free market will figure it out". The "free market" would necessarily imply property rights are being respected, which they arent at the level of public property existing, and they arent at the level of public property not being maintained in line with how you would treat your own private property. The mass migrations are in fact an act of aggression, because the property rights (at the latter level) of citizens are being violated the same way as if I violated your home. You wouldnt invite these people onto your property so how is it ok to invite them to public property?

100% when we can't handle it and shit hits the fan, I don't want to have to turn guns on people. Is it ok to say we don't want a disaster? Also want the dollar to die and Bitcoin to win but don't want it to happen so rapidly that it causes massive suffering.