"Govts have to *experience* the cost for the system to change" Governments ALWAYS experience the cost of their actions, as do corporations. But the INDIVIDUALS who run those governments and corporations NEVER do. The MOMENT nancy pelosi (or any other politician) personally has to worry about 'jihadis', rather than just how to use the worry of them to scare her constituents into obedience, There'll be change. The moment don trump has to pay the debt accrued during his presidency, there'll be change. The moment Albert Bourla has to pay the $2,500,000,000.00 fine for the criminal activities that he authorizes pfizer to commit, there'll be change. Until the INDIVIDUALS responsible, experience the repercussions of their actions, they will continue to be the indifferent scumbags that they all are.