Oddbean new post about login | logout 0xChat is basically at the cutting edge of what's currently possible with Nostr in terms of direct communication. It has audio/video calls, gift-wrapped private DMs, & both private and public group chats, light discovery page & minimal design. It's also a great default app for all Nostr notifications. Absolutely love it 🤌🤍 https://i.imgur.com/s2dJ3dF.jpeg
@OpenSats should grant this prj with an award!!!
nostr:nprofile1qqs8hhhhhc3dmrje73squpz255ape7t448w86f7ltqemca7m0p99spgpypmhxue69uhkx6r0wf6hxtndd94k2erfd3nk2u3wvdhk6w35xs6z7qgmwaehxw309a3ksun0de5kxmr99ej8gmmwdahzucm0d5hsz8rhwden5te0vdhh2mn5wf5k2uewve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hss3mr7u once you test the app properly, if possible, look into this. The developers definitely deserve recognition & grant. Jack and others primarily use iOS, so incredible Android projects often go unnoticed.
the gift-wrapped DMs are an interesting thing to understand. Can wait to see what @JeffG will bring to private communications
Indeed, Once we have truly private DMs, I wouldn't stop shilling this app to all my friends.
I'll be on your team
What are gift-wrapped DMs?
A kind of DM note that is unsigned. To prove its you who sent it, it uses a wrapping (other notes) that dont have the message but have the signature. So dividing these notes, it is like message itself can't be proved to be yours, unless you also have the wrapping, and because of that there is a plausible deniability. More here: https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/59.md
can relays be changed or selected ? specific adding chat relays ? it support onion 0xchat onion fan voice / video are ultimate i guess
What are ppls experience with using this? I havent tried. nostr:nevent1qqsquqcnhedpc7p7v3asn2s6ugpjz8n05v0w0lgktutnxy9q03zwj6spr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmqzyrr0wpmlz6va2r8e92t990ltl7kqtlrgg2u7uwgs38v4nw9dt4y06qcyqqqqqqg34v35s
I would use it but no frens 🥲
I wanna try this with amber. Soon ™
Can't wait for it to be usable
0xchat? Why isn’t it usable yet?
Its buggy AF Notifications nake noise but no notification Problems with media saving and uploads No idea when people are calling Not running in Background well I have it on my families phone and it's basically unusable now.
It works great with amber
Where can I install Amber?
You can download from github, Go to release tab for all the download options. You can also use F-Droid. Btw, if you are using github, add it in your Obtainium for quick updates. https://github.com/greenart7c3/Amber?tab=readme-ov-file
Bookmarking this. I’m also very curious about Obtainum
Both are awesome. Now that Amber has bunker support it is indispensable. I'll never have to give anything else my nsec again. Obtainium basically let's you build your own app store from GitHub. I use it for any app possible these days. https://i.nostr.build/nhQrnXR2DM36eagn.jpg https://github.com/zapstore/zapstore is pretty cool too.
Zap store is a nostr app store?
Yes!
Can we add progressive web applications too?
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PWAs are planned, it's one way we'll support iOS. Also experimented with packaged PWAs, that don't require visiting a website
I recommend suggesting to the developer that they convert their PWA into a Trusted Web Activity (TWA) APK using the PWABuilder website. It's a straightforward process that only takes a few clicks & APK will be also verified by PWA codebase. Play Store and the App Store both suggest this approach for PWAs. https://www.pwabuilder.com/
Nice! Bookmarked
If you're looking for an app that can help you organize all your Nostr Native apps and web applications/websites in one place, complete with an app launcher and a native custom tab browser, then look no further! 🤜🤛 https://github.com/iefanx/AppCore/releases/tag/appcore-v1
Excellent! Thanks!
By the way, if there are any extra features you'd like to see, please don't hesitate to mention them. The app is still in its early beta version, and I created it primarily for my own use. I needed something like this! 😂
nostr:nprofile1qqsvdac80utfn4gvly4fv54la0l6cp0udpptnm3ezzyajkdc44w53lgpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuvrcvd5xzapwvdhk6qgdwaehxw309aukzcn49ekk2qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8x6tpd4ehgu3wvdhk68na3xp would it be possible to see the apps as a list as well as a grid? And for thePWAs that we add as URLs in the second page, would it be possible to add them as icons, maybe with the apps even?
nostr:nprofile1qqsvdac80utfn4gvly4fv54la0l6cp0udpptnm3ezzyajkdc44w53lgpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuvrcvd5xzapwvdhk6qgdwaehxw309aukzcn49ekk2qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8x6tpd4ehgu3wvdhk68na3xp and unless I'm missing it, perhaps a delete function on long press or check selection for urls or notes? Otherwise slick for application selection. 🚀
Been fiddling with this for the last day, got rid of about 3 or 4 grouped folder things on my home screen that I was always fiddling with. After some adjustments of finger habits, I think I like the one app in alphabetical order as a launchpad without having to scroll through a couple sub 'pages' or whatever in the way I had it set up before. Simple but feels like it cleaned me up some. 🫡
I have to install this one
I didn't think I'd like the big grid of everything but I actually do. I haven't messed around with the saved url links or notes. I wish the few PWAs could be pinned like the apps, but don't hate the consolidation. https://i.nostr.build/9hYnYLpR7yYSWO8Z.jpg
I like the grid too. For the urls I put nostr build tenor and a news site so far
Fffffff I didn't even think of nostr.build 🤦 https://i.nostr.build/dmjJ.gif https://i.nostr.build/XTqaibXRegBfr2Xm.gif https://i.nostr.build/F4Za5w8hu6tB8UYY.gif https://i.nostr.build/9z0Dv.gif
https://i.nostr.build/Zz1Xd9hFaeUraQ5M.gif
Did you setup folders on nostr build for gifs ? Maybe I should organize and store my tenor favourites. It's a google acquisition: they could take it down anytime
I got folders of gifs. Liottas gifs. Nic Cage gifs. And some choice memes from my early times here. https://i.nostr.build/HZiKVyUl0ABpu94H.gif https://i.nostr.build/nb12429.gif
You can add any open-source app by copying and pasting the app's GitHub repository link in Obtainium. Obtainium will notify you when the developer uploads any new release and one-click update installation. download link for Obtainium. https://github.com/ImranR98/Obtainium
Thanks! Bookmarked as well
Why not download both from zap.store instead? The Amber release for example is signed by the developer himself. We hope to do the same for 0xchat soon
Is there a difference in getting an app from zap store vs github?
Actually zap.store fetches most apps from Github. But with additional security guards (checking hashes signed by the dev), web of trust display and better discovery. And soon zaps. Obviously Github directly has way more apps, but we're getting there.
Is there something like Amber for ios?
Not if you're using Unified Push with ntfy for notifications. There seems to be a bug in #Amber that breaks UP Auth events for both Amethyst & 0xchat. The only way UP works for either is to disable Amber and sign in directly with nsec.
What's amber?
Any UI hints what level of DM encryption there is in a chat?
Better than telegram?
Yep
Absolutely
Once we have truly private DMs, Nostr will be unstoppable. Decentralized, truly private, and permissionless, protocol. True public free speech. Truly private personal/group chats. Complete anonymity. If we really pull this off, I'm telling you, it's going to be revolutionary. nostr:nevent1qqsquqcnhedpc7p7v3asn2s6ugpjz8n05v0w0lgktutnxy9q03zwj6sprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumfv9khxarj9e3k7mf0qgsvdac80utfn4gvly4fv54la0l6cp0udpptnm3ezzyajkdc44w53lgrqsqqqqqp6fxue9
I'd like to use it, but I don’t like entering my nsec. I'm on iOS.
Yea I’ve been choosing that for DMs and encouraging those I DM with to use it
👀I didn't know 0x had calls!
We're looking at the future, folks. This is how we oppose creeping violations to our right to privacy and expression in the age of information and digitization.
Atualmente estou usando Amethyst, vou testar esse ai.
É melhor que SimpleX.chat ? Não testei nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzp3hhqal3dxw4pnuj49jjhl4lltq9l35y9w0w8yggnk2ehzk46j8aqqsquqcnhedpc7p7v3asn2s6ugpjz8n05v0w0lgktutnxy9q03zwj6snn0s5z
