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 I listened to Thiel on Rogan.  Never been particularly impressed by him when he speaks, but the stammering and repeating of words over and over again make him difficult to listen to. 
 Rogan was insufferable as well. Overall a pretty bad interview. I think they need a do over. 
 weird how hard it is to speak eloquently on the problems with the deepstate when you've been seed funded by the CIA mutliple times (paypal, palantir)