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il_lost_ | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 the explanation of the DMs was made by jb55 and Jeffg at the nostRiga event and you are forgetting the new nip-44 encryption
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keychat | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 NIP-44 is just a part of NIP-17; it only handles encryption and is not a complete DM spec.
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il_lost_ | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 yes nip-44 is an attempt to improve encryption

also nip-04 is just encryption so you can use it for lists and settings in the clients and also for DM, IOT device.