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 > you're claiming there's some determalistic (or even some general probabilist method) that undermines monero privacy?

I'm not claiming that. But I think that's what this privacy expert claims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s3EbSKDA3o

> so what's your fucking problem?

My problem is that monero people claim it is private while permanently publishing massive amounts of info about each of their transactions -- something lightning fixes, even though a few monero influencers like to ignore that. 
 If LN is private
its because nobody is fucking looking.
yet.

you're talking like LN is a privacy solution when receiver privacy is shit and has been forever.
sender privacy is complicated.
the network is so centralized theres the risk your routing nodes can identify users sends.

and you're dissing monero?
for publishing a stealth address on chain??
which isnt "where the coins go" as you keep lying to people.

LN is a brand new, untested Rube Goldberg machine.
Its cool and I dig it.

But you're lying to people when you try and sell it as strong privacy for digital exchange. 
 +Factually Completed based on the link provided.

Thank You 
 The reason lightning fixes it is because it bypasses the blockchain, defating the purpose of a cryptocurrency's security in the first place. Also, this video doesn't even seem to mention Monero (checking the transcript) and this video is 6 years old. Monero has changed a huge amount in 6 years 
 And by "fix", I mean it just holds the transactions privately until the channel is closed (so the funds are actually moved). Before that you are just moving a bunch of IOUs around