Oddbean

@0134ce10 I didn’t set anything up, this is a classic straw-man argument you’re making up. You defining the rules of engagement: https://qoto.org/@voidabyss/111167763581276244 Me pointing out their stupid: https://qoto.org/@voidabyss/111167763581276244 I made the claim that the master race ideology has European origin No, you claimed it was purely of european origin (in other words exclusively white) I still stand with that statement, because I can bring you many quotes from so many prominent white European Elite(Philosophers, politicians, rules, writer, etc) that make claim. I challenge you bring quotes from prominent Elite from North Africa, middle eat, south America, that make that claim. I truly believe that the master race Ideology is purely European origin. As is Very clear here the point of debate was not if white europeans are racist, I concede thatpoint many times and never once disagreed… As I pointed out and the point you yourself claimed was that it was purely of european origin. Something you absolutely failed to prove and were quite clearly disoproven on. I was planning to bring quotes from prominent European leaders, philosophers promoting that ideology. I didn’t yet. I just linked to Wikipedia which gives a good introduction to this subject. Good thing you didnt waste your time doing that because it would have done nothing to advance your argument since 1) it was never in question that white europeans are racist and 2) no matter how many racist quotes you have of white people it does nothing to prove it is exclusively white, so you would have wasted your time, especially seeing as this was disproven. I read this more like CYA, then a valid argument against white supremacy. At no point have I made any attempt at an argument against white supremecy.. In fact you have said this like a dozen times and every time I have explicitly told you I didnt disagree with this… Why do you keep insisting on arguing against ghosts of arguments you fabricate and I never said? I don’t make or engage with dishonest arguments. White supremacy stems from the master race ideology which has European origins, that pretty much sums up the discussion. Keep telling yourself that. Literally everything here is not just a dishonest argument, its over the top dishonest.. you keep fabricating an argument I didnt say, and then argue against it, and then cry foul when your called out on it and just keep doing it. This is probably one of the more intellectually dishonest conversations I’ve ever had.. the only ones that might come close is your anti-vaxx posts which thankfully you’ve calmed down on.

@b05df304 You are over complicating a very simple questions and making up debate fallacies and claiming dishonest arguments to shutdown discussion the same way you did with the mRNA vaccines which has been proven that they are neither safe nor effective(so no point to further that debate). I pretty sure we can agree that Abrahamic religions originated from the middle east, Communism originated from Europe or Buddhism originated from Asia. So, the question here is simple: What’s the origin of the master race ideology? First, we have to agree what is the master race ideology? Simple, do you agree with the Wikipedia definition and its historical background? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race Another question simple question is: Do you believe that white European are genetically superior to other humans? (Please answer this question) If a white European has that believe, they fell for the master race ideology which is the backbone of white supremacy. As is Very clear here the point of debate was not if white europeans are racist, I concede thatpoint many times and never once disagreed… As I pointed out and the point you yourself claimed was that it was purely of european origin. Something you absolutely failed to prove and were quite clearly disoproven on. The question here is not the what’s the origin of racism or slavery. My understanding of your claims that many nations around the world have some aspects of racism and slavery in their culture therefore the Master race Ideology is not purely European. https://qoto.org/@freemo/111167309620923619 If that’s your claim, I respectfully disagree. Limiting the master race ideology to racism and slavery diminishes many horrible aspects of it that are exclusively white European. One point I want to make very clear here: I never claimed nor I believe that white europeans are racist. That’s borderline racist against whites to make that claim. My claim is that white European Elite (Philosophers, scientists, leaders) started the Master race Ideology. I believe those elite represent the 1% minority, and that majority of white European are victim of that Ideology as well as many nations around the world that was exploited by those minority white European Elite. https://qoto.org/@voidabyss/111167278359841915 https://qoto.org/@voidabyss/111167462849461879 I just want to add that the majority of white European are the victim of the white European Elite ideology, through out history i.e (WWI, WWII) and up to this day. My questions are simple, fair and in good faith, I can clear up any misinterpretation you want. Claiming that I engage in dishonest conversation that’s your own projection, I don’t why you do it? In my opinion it’s your way to shutdown the conversation.