Oddbean new post about login | logout Apple Confirms Governments Using Push Notifications to Surveil Users "In this case, the federal government prohibited us from sharing any information. Now that this method has become public we are updating our transparency reporting to detail these kinds of requests," Apple said in a statement. https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/apple-confirms-governments-using-push-notifications-to-surveil-users/
This is a good time to mention that there is https://unifiedpush.org/ and that it is supported by #Amethyst, #Element, #SchildiChat, #Tusky, #Fedilab, and other open source #mobile apps. If you care about this data collection, #OptOut of #centralized push notifications where you can. nostr:nevent1qqsfs05sgzzxc8y5y7wrdgxwrh9wfg3e86uyl29gxqf4lt6c543c3pspz9mhxue69uhkummnw3e82efwvdhk6q3qhxjnw53mhghumt590kgd3fmqme8jzwwflyxesmm50nnapmqdzu7sxpqqqqqqzxq043c
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How would this help? The problem is not Apple the problem is apps that don’t E2E encrypt their push notification payload. fyi - Google has the same problem, they just didn’t admit it once they were free to like Apple did.
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"The data is said to have been used to attempt to tie anonymous users of messaging apps to specific Apple or Google accounts." nostr:nevent1qqsfs05sgzzxc8y5y7wrdgxwrh9wfg3e86uyl29gxqf4lt6c543c3pspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurvv438xarj9e3k7mgzyzu62d6j8wazlndws47epk98vr0y7gfee8usmxr0w37w058vp5tn6qcyqqqqqqga2zk2w
Disabling All forms of notification except for app icon badges should sidestep this privacy vulnerability, no?
That wont work. In order to get badge you have to give Apple notification permission first. After that those toggles will just filter what you see, not what Apple will see.
DeGoogled phones don't have Firebase push. Makes life a little rough, but do what you gotta do. Telegram and Signal get notifications regardless. Amethyst now has Unified push capabilities. You can host Unified Push on your own Nextcloud. Nextcloud Services app on Andrpid can poll your server every 5 seconds or so. This seems to be the only way to get your self-hosted Nextcloud Talk to get notificatipns.
For sure. No Google services on my phone. Wont stop the people I message from having their nitification with Google or Apole though. It wont really matter what we do if others dont as well.
True. I've been saying this for a whole. Having a DeGoogled phone is like being the only person in a swimming pool not pissing in the water while everyone else is peeing.
Nokia flip phone it is then lol
The new flip phones run Googled Android, and even if it don't, if they have Bluetooth and/or hot spot the Google and iPhones will detect them and report your location to Big Tech
Hmm, maybe just having your family all have satellite phones then? Honestly it seems like you basically have to take yourself back to the stone age to enjoy the privacy that people in the 80s used to enjoy
Some Linux phones have physical switches for bluetooth, wifi and cell modems.
This is the type of thing that gets normies to pay attention. Tell a friend or family member. nostr:nevent1qqsfs05sgzzxc8y5y7wrdgxwrh9wfg3e86uyl29gxqf4lt6c543c3pspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzpwd9xafrhw30ekhg2lvsmznkphj0yyuun7gdnphhgl886rkq69eaqvzqqqqqqy4gamrs
FML with these tyrants. I wanna be a hermit with a satellite node and no phone.
Join me on #GrapheneOS. nostr:note1nqlfqsyydswfgfuux6svu8w2uj3rj04cf752svqnt7h43ftr3zrqsydwd7
apple itself is surveillance machine just like Google none of these tech companies can be trusted better get a pixel and flash it with graphene os, only way to go
And use Googles closed source Tensor chip?
"better than ur avg android or ios" Its based on your threat model if ur threat model is directly from govt then better avoid a phone or build one yourself 😊
For sure. Anything online isnt private. Its weird though, people saying degoogled phone while using a googled phone. 😂
Another reason to move away from Apple. Imagine how many other unknown surveillance programs we aren't aware of. #surveillance #privacyisaright #privacy #opsec nostr:note1nqlfqsyydswfgfuux6svu8w2uj3rj04cf752svqnt7h43ftr3zrqsydwd7
They look more suspicious to me revealing a secret.
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I don't understand why people (Bitcoiners in particular) still hold on to their iPhones. Constant gatekeeping, surveillance, incompatible with our lifestyle but hey... they're cool and so "convenient".
Probably because Android is no better and GrapheneOS still uses Google Tensor closed souce bs. They ALL suck!
Wow I didn't know that. So a degoogled phone is still tracked by Google? I was going to get a new phone in 2024 that is degoogled.
Exactly. Everyone that uses GrapheneOS likes to ingore closed source Tensor chip it runs on. You cant degoogle with a Pixel. Its not possible.
Interesting thread... Seems that it's mainly software to worry about? Isn't doing grapheneos better than what I'm currently doing (standard Droid on Google) https://www.reddit.com/r/degoogle/s/TaCkj7vUPt
I don't know. At least with Graphene I don't constantly have to find workarounds for living my lifestyle. It seems obvious that Apple will always gatekeep against Bitcoin or other "freedom tech" software and of course they'll continue working with the Government(s).
Right but your GrapheneOSS is running with closed source Tensor.
Yeah. We need a pleb phone.
^This. If anyone thinks Tensor wouldn't come with built in backdoors, they probably don't remember when Qualcomm was caught doing just that in Samsung Galaxies. https://redmine.replicant.us/projects/replicant/wiki/SamsungGalaxyBackdoor That said, mass surveillance is automated, and replacing the phone's operating system will mess with the spooks' workflow big time.
why: notifications disrupt focus on other peoples terms. leaving notifications off empower when to engage. always has. wtf: .gov exploits notifications to surveil and $goog & $appl obliged. action: peel back fiat peace-by-piece nostr:note1nqlfqsyydswfgfuux6svu8w2uj3rj04cf752svqnt7h43ftr3zrqsydwd7
@Rif'at Ahdi R @yoiyok @NakamotoX "A source familiar with the matter confirmed that both foreign and U.S. government agencies have been asking 𝐀𝐏𝐏𝐋𝐄 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐆𝐎𝐎𝐆𝐋𝐄 for metadata related to push notifications. The data is said to have been used to attempt to tie anonymous users of messaging apps to specific Apple or Google accounts." "Earlier this year French developer David Libeau said users and developers were often unaware of how their apps emitted data to the U.S. tech giants via push notifications, calling them "a privacy nightmare." nostr:note1nqlfqsyydswfgfuux6svu8w2uj3rj04cf752svqnt7h43ftr3zrqsydwd7
if you use a proprietary product, you are the product and their sockpuppet. nostr:nevent1qqsfs05sgzzxc8y5y7wrdgxwrh9wfg3e86uyl29gxqf4lt6c543c3pspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzpwd9xafrhw30ekhg2lvsmznkphj0yyuun7gdnphhgl886rkq69eaqvzqqqqqqy4gamrs
