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Theuni | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 @7c36db82 Just to circle back to my very original statement: the amount of nuance we needed to get out of our systems here goes way beyond what I experience the majority (semi- or even non-technical) people understand and then extrapolate from about rollbacks ... ;)
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5ab0ff62 | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 @c2f9cd0a And I completely agree with you on this, nevertheless, I am interested into seeing how to push the boundaries and better use of the existing capabilities and steer future developments to not make rollback a nice "gimmick", but a theoretically understood concept which may end up being completely useless due to too many blockers (impossible to track data dependencies between a service and his database, etc.)
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Theuni | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 @7c36db82 I think it IS more than a gimmick at the moment. It is more like a safety belt or airbag right now. I don't make *ANY* plans that involve deployment of either. Yet I regularly see those as the "defacto strategies" if "anything should go wrong". ;)
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5ab0ff62 | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 @c2f9cd0a Right, I agree also with that. I called it a gimmick because honestly, when you forward Gitea and you rollback NixOS, Gitea is down because programs are not forward-compatible with their potentially new database schema.
Therefore, there is a whole class of issues that rollbacks will just add to your problems.