@fbe1ee42 @55f1cb6e For large delivery trucks that happen to have pedals — these aren’t really bikes any more. I worry about these trucks because of visibility problems and lane stopping and momentum- they have mass. Ceding bike lane space instead of parking spaces or ‘burbanite driver lanes seems like the wrong direction. <50kg evehicles in the bike lane are mostly ok — a fast bike/moped lane would be better. My commute has considerable topography, & probably influences that opinion