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People are already complaining about engagement from it and it does not solve the real problem. Relays are still getting abused and this is just lipstick on a pig
Wot would limit your ability to find far away people and vice versa. I can see how it could reduce engagement. Everything isnangive and take though - no perfect solutions exist (in anything). I halfway agree abt the relay situation. This method will hide spam notes from being served to your client. But that does not mean those spam notes do not exist on certain relays. I would think the relays that implement wot would block most of the spam notes so no abuse since they wouldn't be storing them. It's the relays who don't implement it (or some other method) that would continue to be abused. So what would be your alternative solution?
Spam can die right now if every relay did nip-05 only. The Ditto devs may implement this soon
What would prevent a spammer from registering and automatically rotating nip05's? I imagine it would just devolve into whackamole.
That is no problem at all. At the relay level, you could write policy to reject that entire domain
I'd imagine the spammer response would then be to rotate domains. What would be the counter to that?
Same as before. Domains are easy to block. Individuals are hard. It is the best idea and everything the devs are coming up with is retarded and temporary.
Domains are as easy to block as individual nip05s or any other specific identifier, i agree with that. But if the spammer is rotating domains, every time one gets blocked they can instantly switch to a fresh one. It would take relays time to identify the new domain as spam. So there would be a period of time where the spam leaks through. The moment the domain is blocked, they switch and spam leaks again.
To solve the Reply Guy shit, I added a button to my nostrudel fork to block any spammer at the Relay Level with 1-click. How come nobody else does this? Some nostr relays relays have tools to stop all this spam but admins don't do anything. The same features exist on every alternative to Nostr. NIP05's are requested and approved by an admin. They only way a spammer could do this kind of attack would be to buy his own domain and broadcast to every relay and then any admin can simply block that domain in seconds.
If you have a forked nostrudel, aren't you blocking it at a client level? The relays you're connected to are probably still storing the spam if, as you say, the admins aren't doing anything about it. It's one thing to block on your own personal fork since youre making decisions that impact you alone. But as an admin for a public client, their decisions impact a lot of people. Someone will eventually yell censorship. Reply guy is one thing as it's obvious spam but there's a gradient and where do you draw the line? How do you determine what is spam? Ironically enough, I use amythest and it puts your notes behind a "show anyway" button. Blocking at a relay or client level requires an individual to make a unilateral decision for many. Filtering (which is what wot is implementing) is passive and other than setting the intial ruleset, does not require constant maintenece or decision making from the admin. This is probably why relay admins are weary of implementing nip05 blocking and devs are looking into wot.
Huh? So... they're really just complaining about the people they're following, aren't they? 😋 The real problem of useless people making things to annoy/abuse others will never be solved, ever. Bitter people exist. Since we're in the fourth turning, it's expected to just get worse. There's no ad revenue to game, so we'll have to see what incentives there are to being annoying. I don't know of any major apps or relays filtering using WoT so far. I've only seen the WoT score on Coracle. Do you know of any? If someone follows multiple relays the filtered posts would likely just get through on other non WoT relays.
You don't need Wot. Some relays have the tools now to fight spam without doing weird stuff like Wot. Iris ,Coracle have done similar stuff and it's always bad for the user.