#### The article says **little** about wallet users. Just whirlpool users.

> "a unique opportunity arose to evaluate the volume of **Whirlpool users** dependent on Samourai's self-hosted public node." 

> "**Whirlpool users**' continuing remixes without interruption constituted 85-90% of the total user base actively mixing before the downtime."

> "This data provides a transparent and verifiable metric, measuring the volume of **Whirlpool users** reliant on Samourai Wallet's public node, a figure now confirmed to be a minority of only 10-15% of the **Whirlpool community**."

Even if it did give you hard metrics about their public node usage by *wallet users*, you would have to trust them. You can't see how they twist the info to stroke their rabid user base's emotional  fragility? 

 Users have to trust nodes they don’t run no matter what. This xpub argument is never levied against all the other public nodes in the network. That is why we run our own nodes. 

 Because the other wallets don't market themselves as an edgy cypherpunk privacy wallet.  

 For the majority of users, Samourai is just another shitty phone wallet with a default model of high trust  

 shitty, lol okay 

Samourai develops the most advanced tools in bitcoin

do you think Craig Raw is too stupid to make a determination about including whirlpool in Sparrow Wallet? 

 By that logic then, if they said they hate privacy then we should trust their node?

their xpub architecture is such that it allows users to not need to download a tremendous amount of data that wouldn’t work over the edge network 

take a moment to appreciate that users in authoritarian countries, underdeveloped countries don’t have 5g and still need privacy 

 Yeah they can use Green or Blue or Nunchuk, too, and at least not have to trust their xpubs with sociopaths that lie on social media. 

 Those wallets have no privacy spending tools

have fun with your peel chains 🍌 

 That is a weird flex for someone who just said vulnerable people have to doxx themselves to Samourai with their xpubs. What does it matter if they can circumvent authority, if they have to trust that Samourai isnt doxxing their xpubs to authority? 

 No one said had to

There is NO evidence samourai has ever doxxed users to authority 

authoritarianism is so clearly more of a threat, this is so silly

why are you not as upset about Wasabi literally hiring chain analysis and sending people to jail 

 I have no interest in joining the Wasabi v Whirlpool shit flinging show. That's all your little problem to resolve, and the demand that we now explore some PlusToken scam morons mixing 10000 coins is the typical trajectory of Samourai discussioms. Staying in my lane, moisturized and flourishing with JoinMarket just fine, thanks.

This whole discussion started with me pointing out the majority of Samourai's user base was doxxing their xpubs to Samourai. After we have established that wallets were separate from Whirlpool and that Samourai's little "downtime"  article addresses very little of that , and admitting that less sophisticated wallet users (I.e. the majority) are doxxing their xpubs, I have very little else to discuss. 

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