Oddbean

The price was being the only candidate who could beat bolsonaro, and making deals with the establishment. The discourse about the vaccine in Brazil is completely different than in the US. I fully believe that people like Lula fully believe in the efficacy of the vaccine and whatever else they are told by the experts. And given the county's history and poverty levels, those people truly believe they are doing good. Giving those who can't afford "life saving" vaccines.

This guy is a thief, a lier, a worst person. The coercion of the poor will be for social benefits (like in China or Cuba, the Brazilian people are largely dependent on social benefits or public jobs - they work for the government (Levitan). I, who work for a private company too I was forced to take it, the company demanded it. My daughter was forced to take it by the university...

I don't think he is a thief, and afaik there is no proof he himself stole. I genuinelly think he does what he does thinking it will do good. Having said that I agree that what he does makes things worse, by removing freedoms, increasing people's reliance on the state, increasing the size of the state, infecting people's brains with ideology, contributing to polarization, etc. All in the name of the "greater good".

The usual. After the catastrophy happened and after some sort of freedom, stability and peace is re-established that cost thousands of lives, history usually talks of people who believe they worked for the 'greater good' as 'thieves' in the best of cases. This is especially true when it concerns the 'greater good' in the name of any socialism/communism, meaning more centralized power. The results are disastrous. It is known now, documented clearly. We don't need to make the same mistakes again. Awakening to universal oneness with the help of decentralized tools such as Bitcoin and Nostr are the way forward.