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 Well the CIA is here. Of course a censorship resistant protocol would be used by them. And the FSB too I'm sure will be here soon. The more the merrier I guess. Let's orange pill them all.

There are blurred lines here. Many people working for the CIA don't know they are working for the CIA. They are trying to free people. And while I support freedom and enlightenment principles, I'm not so sure about democracy (but I'm not against democracy because I'm not sure what is best), but I very much don't appreciate how freedom is abused in order to topple regimes for power projection purposes. Isn't the current level of blowback enough? Or do we need a global thermonuclear war before "they" finally see the blowback has become too much?

Most people don't want to topple their governments in the hopes of becoming America, only to find their country goes straight into the shitter. They are tricked into it by organisations like this. Iran is theocratic *because* of the 1953 coup and Reza Shah dictatorship that followed.

Does anybody think Gary Kasperov is going to topple Russia and make it the 51st American state so that America can harvest its natural resources?

Welcome to nostr. I get to say what I think too, you fucks.

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 CIA is on Nostr.

As @Mike Dilger brought to my attention, the CIA just started using Nostr for propaganda to legitimatize their coups.  If you are unfamiliar with the worldlibertycongress.org it's a Washington DC bullshit front to legitimize the overthrow of any dictator the empire wants out.  (Iran, Venezuela, ect.)  

What will be different about this over Twitter, is this time, they can't get our side removed. 
 If people are trapped under an oppressive regime and want freedom, and a NGO "assists" them in protesting and toppling their government in order to become more democratic and more free, isn't that what we all should want?  This conception of the whole business is hard to argue against, and I feel like I need to get my head straight about it because I do infact believe in freedom and I don't want people trapped in oppressive regimes and I do think soft power of free speech and convincing people is the better form of power.

But in practical terms it seems to have been used for power plays, for resources (originally for oil, maybe always for oil?), not to actually better peoples lives.

I think people need to better their own lives from the ground up using freedom tech like bitcoin and nostr and tor. 
 That actually might just be some joker. I took it seriously because of how others responded to it. I have no idea. ... the CIA already has my head swimming 🤣 
 Some of their members are political dissidents with real skin in the game, perhaps more so than anyone here

One would hope we could debate ideas instead of labels 
 when they post ideas, we'll debate ideas 
 Kicking things off with an insult isn't how to encourage debate of ideas

Now they have "cIa" comment spam in their threads, good for my block list not much else

Hopefully they will ignore the noise and stick around 
 If they are who they say they are and reverse their decision to onboard human rights activists this will be the biggest own-goal yet seen on nostr  
 Democracy is and always been a sham. Your intuition on freedom and liberty being the goal points to focus on is key imo. 🔑  
 Who knows if that post was even real. But it's nice to stimulate thought.