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 Because the big relays think they can extract value from the network instead of valuing decentralization 

 Decentralization doesn't cover the cost of running a relay. 

 You completely misunderstand what this kind of network was designed for. 

 How expensive is it? 

 Are relays filtering for money or control? 

 That's sad tbh 

 relayable is like the only one with tor access lol tell him to add this.

https://github.com/0xtrr/onion-service-nostr-relays 

 Is it because of the relays themselves? Need tor addresses? 

 Many actively block for IPs 

 Likely. 

 Tor* IPs 

 Yes ik 

 Relays may need some bot protection, unsure what the solution is 

 We must learn to be free, the network must be open.  Spam will be part of it, but its up to individuals to handle what they want to see 

 https://m.primal.net/Huoa.png 
Love to ride!! 

 This needs fixed 

 Oooof. Going to test tor support. 

 I gave up using nostr via tor 6 months+ ago as relay support was terrible. 

 @Ava uses gossip on whonix via tor. Care to share your experiences and how / when it started improving? 

 It would be nice to see i2p tested as well as tor, since i2p supposedly has better performance. 

 Too bad. I hope this gets fixed soon.  

 tor sucks from a UX perspective 

 Huge casualty 

 We need Cloudflare up in here 

 LOL no 

 Hmm. Maybe we could use our private keys to prove identity to a relay, and then relays could use reputation to rate limit 

 Sounds like nonsense. We all know Snowden is an actor. 

 tor relay connection problem so he stop using nostr & back to twitter 🤔🤯  

 I tried before but I can't even find Tor relays?? 

 for years now i haven't tried tor against a very repressive adversary but during those times tor gives you an option to choose bridge/exit relays not publicly known 

 Journalists like Greenwald were in good hands at Nostr, but unfortunately, they are not here. There are various reasons for that. 

 bummer actually, I love seeing Whitney post in here too. 

 Please tell him that he needs to access a client without TLS, "http" rather than "https" (and must stay "http").
The reason for Tor relays to never work is that browsers block unencrypted websocket connections, or try to upgrade them to encrypted.
This is a general problem with Tor and not specific to Nostr.