Oddbean new post about login | logout How much in your identity is your country? If you’re from X and someone says “fuck X, it’s a shithole” does it trigger you in any peculiar way?
At this point, I think not much of my identity is connected to my country. I would likely agree with the person saying that.
I accompany them
Nope I don’t own the racist platform 🤷🏽♂️
I haven't thought about this before, but to answer your question: Yes! More and more, Yes! Why? Simply because I learn so much shit how and why its happening abroad that compared to what is happening here the difference is huge! Previously I was way less patriotic...
I couldn't pick one country to be my country in that sense. Fiat identity is always tied to one place and therefore there are many identites with different flavours.
People shouldn't be triggered by something they never had a word about it. Borders were designed by politicians decades ago for their own profits. Why should I be triggered if someone say my place is shit ? Cool story bro, look under your feet, different flavor but same shithole.
All countries are communist shitholes run by psychopathic, mafioso-politicians. If someone thinks their local shithole is better than mine and they want to point it out, I feel sorry for them. It's like a fucking orangutan in a zoo telling his neighbour gorilla how much better his cage is :D
My first association when someone mention country I get "nature" and yea it would hurt a little if someone would've said it's a shithole. It isn't that's why I created @ifeelsLOVEnia bot. But If you look in a political way, then yes they are all shitholes without exceptions and I would agree with anyone said so 😃
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i’m usually the one saying “fuck X, and Y, Z while i’m at it” the best retort people can come up (instead of addressing the argument) is: “if you hate it so much why don’t you move??” so i moved.
My country of origin is universally hated by a lot of people and, being from that country, I always get this odd feeling that I should apologise when I say where I'm from. It is generally a shithole tbf, which is why I left (twice lol) so it's never triggered me if ppl say so. However, it is a matter of perception as many ppl think it's wonderful. My adopted country, on the other hand, seems to be universally loved and admired. The difference in the 2 countries in terms of how ppl react and how you're treated when they ask you where you're from is HUGE. I often switch up the 2 choices just to observe the different reactions.
No, because it's true in my case. The country I grew up in turned into a shithole, and now the UK is going down the same path.
I am from #CostaRica and I love my country, my people, my culture, etc. Although, I am with the posture of not being extreme with my love, since I understand that we are not perfect and same as we have so many nice things, there are also so many bad/ugly/dumb ones. It really saddens me a lot because I know that we have world class potential, but it is really difficult to straighten things up, that for many years have been eating slowly our society. Corruption for one, is something that gets so much on my nerves, that is one of the main reasons I decided to live outside my country. Although, I would love to return one day. Hopefully with enough tools to try and change the status quo for the best.
Nope.
They should be focused on their own country, critisizing or constructing it, instead of going shitty about foreign countries. No matter what country it is about. That quoted line is just overall dickhead-attitude, with what I prefer not to communicate with.
I was loyal and wanted to contribute in building up my country. Then I understood how governments work, their corruptness, and how they throw people under the bus. I looked up and started reading about the world. And understood that governments around the world are no different - maybe slightly better or worst I then realized why it is of utmost important for people to live in freedom, and they never will so as long as governments control money and narratives.
Most things trigger. After all you were probably indoctrinated in that countries education centers for most of your formative years. Then after years of deprogramming you realize things aren't exactly as they appear. So when someone says X is a shithole you'll have an instinctive tribal defense response start to form but you hope the deprogramming stops it and let's you analyze the comment. Is the person's criticism directed at the government, people, or state of ruin? If it's just the government then 99% of the time they're right. If it's as a comparison to their own government then that's relative but the last 3 years showed us to varying degrees every gov became a commie shithole. If directed at people or condition of the place then it's not warranted. Of course it doesn't stop me from calling northerners in the US commies and their states commie shitholes 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Good for lulz.
idk man, America is pretty unique. I don't really care too much if others shit on USA. We def have problems, the fed, wb, imf... most evil institutions are here, but we also have 1 and 2 A... and no one else does... So I will stay and fight for the rights I do have here, until it is too dangerous for my family at least. I care, until my childrens lives are directly at risk of violence by the state. Any country that does that IS a shithole and I want no part of it.
