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A defense atty told me that they (goog, apple, meta, et al) supply prosecutors with any info they ask for on a phone call or email.

For defense attorneys, they ignore subpoenas. Yes, judicial orders, they never respond. 
 @055c3aac @a3328adc I’d like to see some evidence backing that claim up. 

I ask because I’ve written previously about info requests from law enforcement and how they are rising rapidly. 

But, best I can tell, no company complies in all requests. Here are Apple’s most recent stats:
https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/us.html

Of note: I don’t see that they’ve broken down their requests based on whether subpoenas come from prosecuting or defense attorneys. 
 @76382236 @a3328adc 

Sorry, the attorney was speaking in confidence. The politics of defense and prosecution are such that more details aren’t going to come from this source. But they’re quit credible. The entire office has had subpoenas unfulfilled while prosecution has no such problem. 
 @055c3aac @a3328adc you claiming it being credible and having hard facts to back that VERY awful claim are two different things. 

Only, if true, why speak in strict confidence? It seems to me that the more people who know about this, then the more pressure is put on the corporations to behave properly. 
 @76382236 @a3328adc 

True.  And in the meantime, while that revolutionary improvement in behavior is being made, every defense attorney in the US will suffer even worse behavior by the providers.

Vote appropriately. 
 @055c3aac @76382236 @a3328adc 

I’m a lifetime progressive and defender of the environment and marginalized voices. 

But - best I can tell here - merely voting won’t impact how a corporation decides to behave. That will require legislation. And THAT in turn will require more work than simply going to the polls.