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Kortik 🇦🇲 | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 That’s the worst thing you can do because yuu still need to peg out onchain at some point
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Mindaugas | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I move my funds on chain to my own lightning node, then send through lightning to a Muun wallet (noKYC), then from Muun I can take it onchain to my non-custodial new address. This makes my funds untraceable, or am I missing something?
Bear in mind I can have hundreds of noKYC Muun wallets.
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Kortik 🇦🇲 | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 When you move your sats to fund onchain lightning node here you already gave up your privacy unless you opened onchain lightning opening using postmix tools. So that’s #1 step that is most important because some entity knows that this utxo that belongs to you was used to open that LN channel. 
Also muun is not a lightning wallet it’s actually an onchain wallet with an onchain to lightning swap service. It’s not a true LN wallet, even when you receive LN onchain fees are paid. Also muun charges a fee for failed payment attempts and they simply approximate by paying you LN with a swap onchain balance into LN and they pay an invoice for you. 
Also using this tool https://lightningdecoder.com/
Your LN tx are not private
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Mindaugas | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I think lightning tx are private if I do not have a direct channel between payer and receiver. Lightningdecoder.com does not discover any identifyable information.