right now I'm fighting a chinese spammer on the damus relay, these people have no lives. 

 DM me 

 I've seen it, they've been going full blast for a few days. We have to fight it somehow. 

 This is exactly what we are working on with @The Fishcake🐶🐾  but we still have a problem with these degenerates. The last few weeks we have an AI analyzing, we no longer have to check by hand, but the problem with these riff-raff is still there. 

 PhotoDNA is the way! 🐶🐾🫡 

 Do you have a product that can AI scan images for sensitive content? Would love to know more 

 Yes. What do you want to know? 🐶🐾🫡 

 I’m developing a nostr client https://storm.pub so that might be useful to prevent gross content from being posted

So you have a website I can bookmark? 

 I have an API that I could share with you to use with low volume 🐶🐾🫡 

 That’s awesome! I’m not quite ready for it yet but I’ll let you know when I am! 

 Thank you! 

 any other FOSS type alternative to PDNA ? or is it that MS has huge library to crosscheck? 

 This is exactly why I don't do any public server stuff cause I don't want to deal with it, but I have mad respect for the devs who fight through it and do it for the community. I tried making a public blog website once, it got spammed with ads on Russian funeral services  . I decided then I didn't want to.  

 Running AI against this shit also costs money. Indeed, uploading media should probably cost a few sats 

 This! Such „PoW” would discourage spamming. 

 it wouldn't. spammers can do pow better than normal clients 

 How better? Better machines or what? 

 people writing spam bots are probably nerds with more computing resources than just a person on their phone 

 True. That’s a pity then… 

 Ojalá encontremos la manera adecuada y rápida de frenar ésto  

 How about some initial sats payment that is automatically reimbursed if the relay operator does not decide to slash it? That would allow for much higher prepayment but come at low cost for honest users 

 I think that was the so Sphinx chat model. You give up sats to join a group and send messages and if the chat room owner decided it was spam they could keep the sats.  

 Then you'd trust the good intentions of the host. 

 yeah, but it is an opt-in model and these things can be handled on the social layer through reputation. Additionally, we are not talking about huge sums. A deposit of 5$ per user would already kill almost all spammers, the individual loss in a rug is low. 

 I guess so 🤷 

 which is a perfectly viable model I think. It would even allow to make it free for honest users and very costly for dishonest ones. There's always the possibility of rugs by the relay operators, but that's the risk a user is taking. 

 Are uploads signed with nsecs? Maybe a web of trust scheme or reputation based rate limiting would help. npubs without a clean history or low connectivity go to the back of the review queue.