Oddbean

Why are moral obligations negative though? Your moral compass helps guide you in the direction to help someone whether mutually beneficial or not. Sure you may get a quick dopamine hit, but other than that helping people isn't always beneficial to both parties. One could argue your harvest reaping as evil though. That was my previous point that I probably didn't communicate well, I'm a bit smooth brained. I'm not God so I don't think I could bring myself to do that because of my morality. However, if my family were in trouble then I'm certain I would be truly capable of a scorched earth policy on those who threaten them. This is where the "it depends" comes into play. I've never read the book of Enoch, but need to. I have always been fascinated with Revelations though. Thank you for the conversation

you are obliged to not harm you are not obliged to help i absolutely could leave someone behind if they had repeatedly done me wrong, and this would be the wages of their sins against me, it would not be my judgement no matter how likely their death might be in the absence of my help, that would decide if they die or not i am not going to be the turtle carrying the scorpion across the flooding river it is not a quality of goodness to comfort evil, in fact this is the hardest thing for most people to understand, you must choose who you associate with and it is incumbent upon you as an aspiring righteous person to not consort with people who delight in iniquity sometimes it is said that doing things that don't benefit evil people is doing them evil - it even is written that way sometimes in biblical texts, but it is a nonsense way of describing it... not doing something is not the same as doing something, inaction is a decision, as is action, but inaction to help evil is not evil, it is actually good idk how many times i see it in many moral fables in novels and movies where a person who would be categorised as a 2, is redeemed by a 1 refusing to help anymore, it's a universal pattern and that's just life i'm not gonna refuse to help anyone who has not established a reputation for mischief, but after i see it happen several times my interactions with them can only be purely self serving and that includes abandonment, because if they are a 2, that might be the act (or more exactly decision) that helps them change their side

the proverb "turn the other cheek" does not mean you help evil people it means that you regard their attempts to hurt you as weak, which is the nature of evil, it is small, it is dark if someone repeatedly puts themselves in a place where they need help and the acts that lead to this are their violation of the rights of others, they are burning all their bridges and only fools give help to those who have repeatedly harmed them in Buddhism this stupidity is called "idiot compassion" nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqnyqqft6tz9g9pyaqjvp0s4a4tvcfvj6gkke7mddvmj86w68uwe0qqstchu8fncs6nztj3vz9a5dew6fj9jyrtw9h903r3falv2g3nexevs8r7rgj