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semisol | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 both of them are IoT grade shit (and at least one lacks any CC certification) that don’t have the same basic protections as any credit card within the last 15 years
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Felix | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Ledger Donjon hasn't managed to break the MK4 yet, and I guess they have all the nice equipment. Seems like the most secure hww that is currently available imo.
https://www.ledger.com/blog/category/donjon
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semisol | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 yes, they have, the SE2 used by CC Mk4 is broken (source: Coinkite), and SE1 also has been broken (source: a talk by the Ledger Donjon team)
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Felix | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Missed that, sounds interesting, need to watch the talk👀