Oddbean new post about login | logout Trademarks are a fuck if you do, fuck if you don't type of law. Was not an easy decision, but had to be made. I own it. If you don't defend it, you lose it. And If someone made an evil version of our products we would have less recourse. Running your sales site of your knock off out of the same repository as your codebase is retarded. Trademark has nothing to do with the code. Things are never as simple as the cancel ppl try to make it be. The drama seems to always originate from the same sources...
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Cool story bro, fuck off.
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What is this emoji? I always assumed it was a movie camera but how does that make sense in this context?
It's two people hugging.
Thanks. Would never have guessed that in a million years.
You have to stare at it like those stereogram pictures at the mall.
Ha. Haven’t seen one of those for years. What a weird craze that was.
I was one of the few people who was able to see the sailboat within just a few seconds. I could even see it as I was walking past. Lol
Such anger
I had to do it too. Not a trademark but a patent. The process is exhausting when you do it yourself without a lawyer. I definitely felt like I had to defend my design. Got it done tho. I own my creation as well and it was worth it once the process was finalized with a patent number. 🤙🏼
intellectual property is a legal fiction
Someone called the based department because this guy is getting a promotion 🏅
NVK living in fear of a free market once again.
I like all the work you do, but I've only heard context about this through the rumor mill. Was someone selling a "blockclock" and essentially taking the name you've built? I find it hard to believe you have a problem with an open-source build of the idea of a blockclock. Can you provide some more context?
Look up BTCLOCK
The block clock sucks. Not a single smart person would pay for such an item. You made some money selling stupid shit to idiots(we all do this) so take the win and let it go. Bat now you'll be remembered as a douche, which you are... So I guess it works out actually... Nevermind
I don't think you've adequately weighed the long-term consequences of your decision. You're tanking your entire brand for the sake stopping someone who made a less expensive version of the same concept. I think you will come to regret this decision in the years to come, as you have effectively alienated the very people your success relys on.
the way you are supposed to compete is making a better product and/or a cheaper one. A clone cant damage your sells if its a bad clone. A good clone, better than the original, would. You have based the success of your company selling hws to a niche that understand the quality and the value of products, noone will benefit by your bad fiat move, noone needed this paternalistic intervention except you. The same people that appreciated and respected coinkite are the same that could loose their respect after a move like that, you know, bitcoiners love free markets and fair competition.
still got my support. Great products
Please fix the wifi (wpa2/3 support) as I upgraded security and now my Blockclock mini doesn’t work anymore whilst my BTClock does 👀
Would you be willing, for the good of the project, to step down from OpenSats Board?
What project?
OpenSats
Why would him stepping down be for the good of the OpenSats? How is this related to OpenSats?
nostr:nprofile1qqsw3znfr6vdnxrujezjrhlkqqjlvpcqx79ys7gcph9mkjjsy7zsgygpr9mhxue69uhhqatjv9mxjerp9ehx7um5wghxcctwvsq3samnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwdehhxarjd93kztnrdaksz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ekk7um5wgh8qatz7tvu4p sits on the 9 member board that determines what projects are funded by the organization. There is a growing view that Bitcoin projects are not being funded by OpenSats due to conflicts of interests from board members. Regardless if NVK is abstaining or not, his presence on the board only leads to concerns from members of the Bitcoin community. There are very qualified members of the community that could provide the technical guidance to the Board's decisions that are not nearly in a level of conflict that NVK brings.
The "Bitcoin community" should start it's own non-profit to pay devs. Especially if there are very qualified members. OpenSats is an organization. Organizations are not decentralized. They are centrally controlled. If you don't like Open Sats because you don't like 11.1111% of the board, I would consider donating to a different non-profit. I understand your concern but your recommendation sounds entitled and irrational.
You understand the concern so what would be the right way to address it for the good of OpenSats and the existing donation base it has?
I don't know because I don't run Open Sats. But even with NVK excluded, I trust the rest of the board and Gigi.
I don't either but I can certainly see how this will affect funding for the organization in total. I hope nostr:nprofile1qqsxu35yyt0mwjjh8pcz4zprhxegz69t4wr9t74vk6zne58wzh0waycpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qg4waehxw309ahx7um5wghx77r5wghxgetk9uq3samnwvaz7tmxd9k8getj9ehx7um5wgh8w6twv5hsj7hdd2 would consider these calls from many members of the Bitcoin community and at least call a special meeting per Art III, Section 7 to allow board members to make that decision on an individual personal level. I also trust mayn of the other board members and would hope they'd do the right thing for the organization.
Let's say nostr:nprofile1qqsw3znfr6vdnxrujezjrhlkqqjlvpcqx79ys7gcph9mkjjsy7zsgygpr9mhxue69uhhqatjv9mxjerp9ehx7um5wghxcctwvsq3samnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwdehhxarjd93kztnrdaksz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ekk7um5wgh8qatz7tvu4p is hostile to anyone opposing his business moat when they apply to nostr:nprofile1qqs8suecw4luyht9ekff89x4uacneapk8r5dyk0gmn6uwwurf6u9ruspzpmhxue69uhkumewwd68ytnrwghszxthwden5te0wfjkccte9eekummjwsh8xmmrd9skctcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhs2juazd. Which 4 other board members share the same interest that enables this bias? Let's be specific and name names. They are all publicly listed. The easiest is nostr:nprofile1qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ex2mrfw3jhxtn0wfnszynhwden5te0wahhgtn4w3ux7tn0dejszxthwden5te0wdjkuerfwshxummnvekxzun99e3k7mgrcp7e2 since he's invested in CoinKite. Who are the other 3 and why would they be biased?
Opensats is losing credibility and thereby donations with him on the board, which hurts the greater FOSS community upon which Bitcoin is built. Some of my personal favorite FOSS projects are clearly discriminated against by the Opensats board.
He is 11% of the board. Any other board members with issues?
Conflicts of interests, absolutely. In the name of transparency you should probably disclose your business relationship causing your own personal bias here. I have no dog in this fight. Only interested in FOSS, which is what Opensats is supposed to be supporting. No one has worked harder to obfuscate the definition of FOSS.
Please name the conflicts and total the % of the board that share the same or similar conflicts. I bought a grip of cold cards as a reseller. They're my slowest moving product and I should bought Bitcoin instead. I've also receive Open Sats funding for Q4 2023. Not sure how that plays into a bias here. I think NVK shouldn't sue OSS devs. I also think he's fine to stay on Open Sats board. RE: obfuscation Have you seen the Operation Orchestra video? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3jQoAYRKqhg
From a long time Coinkite supporter and BlockClock owner. You are acting like you have nothing to do with the open source community and not actively benefiting from it. Why did you not contact him first to change the name? How can you do this and not step down from nostr:nprofile1qqs8suecw4luyht9ekff89x4uacneapk8r5dyk0gmn6uwwurf6u9ruspzpmhxue69uhkumewwd68ytnrwghszxthwden5te0wfjkccte9eekummjwsh8xmmrd9skctcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhs2juazd board?
But the simple thing here is this. Trademarks and all other form of IP are an indefensible postion. When someone creates a thing of a new paradigm the first mover is the one everyone learns of first. So inherently that name whatever it may be is by necessity what people will call it. Kleenx & coke are some great examples. Everyone refers to these trademarks AS THE THING all the time when referring to the thing. Using the state to forcibly make others not use a similar name is just retarded and makes you look weak. nostr:nevent1qqs079xdzd9ga5r8ntc6fr845dv7qyqygnrwzz4xx44my5vyy2ehtdcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3qaz9xj85cmxv8e9j9y80lvqp97crsqdu2fpu3srwthd99qfu9qsgsxpqqqqqqzhxq448
