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 You’re thinking of HolePunch, not Holesail. Holesail is built on the same stack as Keet is, but it’s a completely separate project. HolePunch is the company behind the development of all of this.

The naming conventions can be super confusing and there’s basically like 4 of them 🤣. Thats why I just refer to it as the pear stack now. 
 You right, but using pear for p2p DMs could take some strain off relays having to keep notes that are IMO a waste of space. Just spin up rooms when you send a DM