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OceanSlim | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 It's only stressful because they keep moving ahead when they still have bugs left behind.
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Laeserin | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Dragging entire cartloads of technical debt behind them and when you point to it they get pissed off because they're stressed out. But they don't want to stop because they get paid on delivery, not on quality. Because they people who are paying them actually don't care if the stuff works. 😂

But we can all see that nobody is using their app. We can't use it. It doesn't work.
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OceanSlim | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 I blame react ⚛️
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Michael J | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 A lot of Nostr devs use Svelte, it seems.
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ChipTuner | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Then I blame JS in totality
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Laeserin | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +5 
 I can agree with that.
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Michael J | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Yeah, JS is...well it's JS.
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OceanSlim | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 This is why I Go...

With a sprinkle of HTMX
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ChipTuner | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Go makes me vomit all over the keyboard but I've gotten used to cleaning it up. I just try not too eat much before I go looking at it.
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OceanSlim | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Precisely. JS and all of its frameworks.

HTMX gives 95% of all the functionality of JS, 95% confusing bloated functions I no longer have to write.  Just need JS for some animations and switches. And MOST of that is just animation...
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ChipTuner | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I need to start looking into HTMX more seriously. While I'll talk crap, I feel like a JS is a necessary evil at this point, it's just a huge percentage of the job market now.
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ChipTuner | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Clarify, TS specifically, I can't work with weakly typed languages, it just isn't for me. I started using PHP when they introduced strict typing semantics :)
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OceanSlim | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 HTMX.org 

You must learn to handle everything server side. HATEOAS

Think differently. It weird at first, and the longer you've been using JS traditionally the harder it's going to be to re-wire your brain to program that way. It seems wrong at first but then the code base is so much smaller and less worry about how the client behaves because most compute is server side.