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bostonwine | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +4 
 I enjoyed the article. I also have questions - maybe just a simple clarification.

When I saw yesterday that many were asking some variant of, “did Pelosi lock Biden in a closet somewhere?”, my mind gravitated (as it so often does) to Nostr.

We appreciate the significance of the fact that a cryptographically signed message cannot be altered or faked, without implicitly demonstrating that it is no longer the original signer’s message.

In the context of “is the tweet real?”, one is left wishing for a way to verify, if one doesn’t trust.
 
With Nostr — generally speaking — the person who owns the nsec can claim and verify that their messages are their own. Scaled outward, cryptographic signatures will allow us to trust, by verifying, that the same individual who has been tweeting is still tweeting… as long as their nsec has not been compromised, of course.

As with Bitcoin, I find that there are many — countless — ways that using Nostr in place of the existing architecture would meaningfully improve whatever it is we’re trying to do. 

Humans are also quick to propose our favorite thing as the way to fix others’ problems. It’s natural.

I’m being called for dinner, so I’ll need to cut my reflection short. 

Anyway, thank you for the “food for thought” ✌️
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beautyon | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 “As long as their nsec has not been compromised of course”

Of course.

This is Cult Nonsense and it shows that you don’t understand how anything works. Signatures breaking doesn’t indicate it isn’t the owners message; it simply means the signature is broken. Nothing else can be implied other than that.

Anyone can poast as a Nostr user by simply getting their phone. The keys offer no verification whatsoever of who is making a poast, only that a poast was made with a unique key.

This has nothing to do with proving a particular individual did anything; this is Cult mythology, not reality, and conflating Nostr with Bitcoin is ridiculous. Signature in Bitcoin are used to write to the ledger so that others can rely on them. In Nostr, signatures only tell you a key was used; the arbitrary messages have no meaning in any context, even in their own context. It’s indistinguishable from white noise. The idea behind Nostr is that no one can stop you poasting; it’s not about authentication, which is an inconvenient means to an end.

If I have your car keys I could drive your car away; keys can’t be used to authenticate the signer is who they claim to be, they’re not magic. Any locked door that belongs to you whose keys are accessible to me can be opened by me. This is true on Nostr, which cannot solve this problem.

Nostr isn’t interesting for the reasons you think it is, and the world you’re imagining cannot be built on it. It’s nothing more than Cult Nonsense.

Here is a list of some of the most famous cults:

1. Peoples Temple
2. Branch Davidians
3. Heaven's Gate
4. The Manson Family
5. The Order of the Solar Temple
6. Aum Shinrikyo
7. Children of God (Family International)
8. The Moonies (Unification Church)
9. Rajneeshpuram (followers of Osho)
10. Scientology
11. NXIVM
12. Falun Gong
13. The Church of the Lamb of God
14. Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God
15. The Church of the Last Testament
16. Bitcoin (Cryptocurrency)


And the idea that people constantly being identified is only desired by totalitarian Communists and maniacs. Free people want to transact and communicate privately and anonymously. It is not a good thing that an identity layer is placed over everything. This is why the Ethical people in Bitcoin are so eager to anonymise its use, not wantonly attach identity to everything.

The privacy preservers are going to win this by the way. They’re going to win because they know how things work, know how they should work, have the means to make them work, and are releasing these means into the market.

They don’t wave their hands around, gush at every new toy put in front of them. They take things seriously…because they’re important matters, and not a game.

And thank YOU for replying!