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hh | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 "We're not there". OK. As I said, it seems we need to have our own Nostr Ross Ulbricht before people are convinced that, in fact, we are.
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ManiMe | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Right. So we’re not “there” yet. Nostr “elites” are not being persecuted ATM. 

This is not a case of “once we have our persecuted then people will see that we are being persecuted”. We are NOT being persecuted ATM, and we should take advantage of this by “redefining” and “growing” the tools for decentralization. 

To cower for the sake of being persecuted is to forget the entire reason of existence. 

Why does Nostr exist? What can Nostr accomplish?
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hh | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 I'm not saying we have to "cower". It's exactly the opposite. "Cowering" is asking for compliance with censorship laws like this was Twitter already.
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ManiMe | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 “Cowering” is to not pursue a “decentralized content filter” architecture (that would keep Nostr “trusted users” buffered from the onslaught of bots and bad actors that are sure to come) simply because the current paradigm of “content moderation” is centralized (run in black boxes by a handful of companies) and prone to being manipulated by govt.

> “Perfecting truly decentralized content filtering (where users choose, design, and share their own filters across clients) is Nostr’s game to loose. If we don’t develop these tools today, then tomorrow it may be too late. We need to EMBRACE the fact that nobody notices us yet, rather than LOCK DOWN and prepare for the worst.”
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SarahtoshiNakamoto | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 I only see the notes of people I follow.  Is that not a pretty good filter?
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ManiMe | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 As long as it works for you … but TBH are you SURE that your client isn’t filtering behind the scenes for you?
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SarahtoshiNakamoto | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 Im using Damus, primarily. I do t know that.  I would think that filtering should be done on the relay level. Having an assortment of PG, PG-13 and, R rated paid relays would provide a potential source of revenue for the relay operators as well as options for the users. People want different things so there’s a place for all of them.
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ManiMe | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Right. There is a way to accomplish filtering on relays and clients WITHOUT assuming the “legal” role of a publisher. This is the backdrop of the conversation above.
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SarahtoshiNakamoto | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 The nostr experience is 100% what the user makes of it.