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Moel | 1 months ago (raw) | export | reply | flag +10 
 BOLT-12 solves for receiver privacy, Taproot channels solve for chain analysis, and PTLCs solve for malicious routers and enable async payments for mobile devices and browser extensions. We're seeing it in use all over the world.

Is there any more Lightning FUD that hasn't been addressed by the latest developments on layers? What is Lightning missing as a fully complete alternative to shitcoins like Monero?

Source: https://x.com/cryptoquick/status/1838951397427179796
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The Beave | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Monero is simply easier. Have a wallet, send XMR, receive XMR.

Not set up a node on your own hardware, fight with opening a channel, having issues with channels/payments, channel force closes, etc. 

Custodial lightning works well. Self custodial is not at all easy yet.

🫂
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Zaikaboy | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 It isn't exactly difficult either. With the likes of nostr:nprofile1qqsrf5h4ya83jk8u6t9jgc76h6kalz3plp9vusjpm2ygqgalqhxgp9gpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43qzrthwden5te0dehhxtnvdakqz8thwden5te0dehhxarj94c82c3wwajkcmr0wfjx2u3wdejhgjaa6xr and it's LSP making the phone a node, its getting easier and more accessible
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The Beave | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Easier than it was is not as easy as currently.

I'm sure it's will improve, but... It's not the same.
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Zaikaboy | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Have a coffee
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The Beave | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Ew. No. I don't drink that stuff.
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Zaikaboy | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Really! That'll explain it then xx
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The Beave | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Yes. 

It might. I'm definitely an odd duck.
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Zaikaboy | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 No point not being my friend. If we were all the same, the world would be boring
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LightningGoats | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 You ever try to run a goat feeder using Monero?
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The Beave | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Nope.
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TK CTV | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 They will always come up with strawmen nonsense fallacies in order to feel good about their shitcoin bags.
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John | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Its not piss easy
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AbstractEquilibrium | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Tail emission 😅
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SaberhagenTheNameless | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 So is this an admission that the "just use lightning for privacy" crowd was lying before BOLT-12? 🤔

Until Taproot becomes more common, it just has the opposite effect and makes your transaction stick out from more common address types