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 This church sign is fucking dark.

Torturing & killing the mortal form of God would necessarily be the greatest sin of all time. Treating the torture & killing of God as the solution rather than the problem that God had to forgive you for seems retarded to me. God died because some people are power hungry authoritarians & others are cowards who like to align themselves with power hungry authoritarians. Seeing the mistake, seeing our true nature, & then choosing to live differently was the fix.

Why do church people always make me feel like I'm taking crazy pills?
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 WTF ! 😂😂 
 Because Church is made by those power-hunger psychopats you spoke of. 

Abolish Church as an institution. Being a good Christian doesn’t require church as far as I can tell. 
 Ooh... that is a really unfortunate take. What do the scriptures say is the pillar and foundation of truth, do you think? 
 Definitely a strange statement to see. I wonder how many ppl drove past it and said to themselves, “oh how clever” or “how well said.” 😨 
 Was shared with hearts by someone I'm friends with on fbook   
 ☠️ YIKES…I was having dinner out the other night and we were talking about our church experiences. Specifically, the relationships with the individuals within the church and how that related to the authenticity of the pastor/service. Growing up, there seemed to be an increase of revenue for churches displaying more attractive individuals with scripted messages and worship concerts. 
 This is a really common pattern of thought in American non-Apostolic Christianity. They conflate the means with the end. The crucifixion of our Lord was evil, but what the Sanhedrin and the Romans meant for evil God used for good.

This is the theme of salvation: evil corrupts and God uses the broken to make something yet more beautiful than the unbroken original. 
 In my opinion Abrahamic religions share some very bad ideas

This world is less "real" than what comes after death
This world is a trial to be endured
Goodness consists of sacrificing one's well-being in this world, for benefits in the later realm

I think these are related to Nietzsche's slave and master morality
I think Abrahamic religions tend to prioritize meekness and submission, which Nietzsche describes as slave morality
The psychologocial justification for this is that by rejecting power now we will be even more empowered in the next life
I think Nietzsche is correct in noticing that unlimited submission involves relinquishing one's own will to live and this breeds resentment

I think Rand is correct in outlining a third alternative which breaks the master/slave dichotomy: trader morality
Like master morality, this involves a will to live; the good, strong, beautiful, etc are once again synonymous
Like slave morality, the trader forsakes violence, plunder and domination as a way of life

Recommended readings:

Freidrich Nietzche
-Genealogy of Morals
-Beyond Good and Evil
-The Antichrist

Alain de Benoist
-On Being a Pagan

Baruch Spinoza
-Tractatus Theologico-Politicus

Richard Dawkins
-The Selfish Gene

Leonard Peikoff
-Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand

Ayn Rand
-For the New Intellectual (Galt's Speech from Atlas Shrugged)
-The Virtue of Selfishness (The Objectivist Ethics)

Lao Tzu
-Dao de Ching

Aristotle
-Nichomachean Ethics 
 💯 Never heard it called Trader morality, that's neat.  
 This world is not less real than the one to come. The framework of the bible is that the world is fallen due to human sin and cursed as a result. The hope of the resurrection is a renewed creation. 

There is also a strong theme in the new testament of being set free, breaking the bonds/chains of sin, overcoming the world and being victors over death. 

The church is a target of the state to be used as a tool to control the masses. It is often overcome, just as shitcoin communities are VC captured, but when faithful to it's teachings it's quite subversive. 


 
 "the world is fallen"
"overcoming the world and being victors over death"

What are the psychological consequences of believing things like this?

My belief is no less spiritual but entirely the opposite

I believe "God" is Nature
Not immutable Gaea
But the whole cosmos
Even us 
 Patience and endurance in the reality of suffering and injustice. Motivation to try and live at peace with others and help those suffering.