Oddbean

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 @43d7c4ea it’s also an issue with car production, Ev generally need less people to assemble and is an opportunity to modernise and streamline production. It’s one of the things they are striking about in the US

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/16/business/electric-vehicles-uaw-gm-ford-stellantis.html

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 @b2c4807d 

Yes, exactly... and less servicing manpower too (albeit what is needed is highly specialised)

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 @43d7c4ea @b2c4807d and is exactly why the EU politicians have suddenly panicked and announced they’re investigating China and EV subsidies from the state. 

They brought in legislation that affected millions and did nothing to help. Now they’re a little worried people might not be so cool and may ask “these rules you’ve brought in, what are you doing to help me now you’ve removed my job?” (This is all irrespective of the “rightness” of legislation)

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 @b2c4807d @43d7c4ea I don't know what the generational change effect will be, but as I have discovered with my family's children who live and work in cities, they have not learnt to drive. So they certainly don't own a car. Even those who lived in childhood in rural areas, but now work in cities, and had cars in their youth, have disposed of those using hire cars/vans when required, but cycling everywhere else. 
Another example of the urban rural divide?

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 @65cb3dfd @b2c4807d @43d7c4ea

All we need now is cycling infrastructure and cultural shift re cycling on the same scale as NL or Denmark and the switch from car ownership will be significant and sustained.

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 @2ee43d7d @65cb3dfd @b2c4807d 

Certainly, round here (being pretty hilly) e-bikes have been the answer - and its pretty clear there is accelerating adoption