Oddbean new post about login | logout The less the better, if you need a number, I guess it should be less than 0.1% finally.
So 0.1% of 2.2million people is 22,000 people (which Israel themselves said more than that was killed before the ceasefire). We were at 18,000 by Palestinian numbers before the ceasefire and since the ceasefire ended there has already been over a 1000 who have died. So the final question I have for you is, considering you don’t accept number of deaths from anyone but the ones carrying out the murder in the first place, when exactly will you say that they’ve gone too far? What would it take for you to admit that too many people have been killed so far? This is important, as you’ve agreed there is a limit, but how does one measure that limit in your world? Because surely it’s in the best interest of a murderous apartheid state to deny their crimes…
Because Israel is still in a war,you can't say it is an apartheid country. If you are Palestinian, you should establish your own country by negotiation with Israel. If Israel doesn't agree you establish your country, then all of the world will stand with you together.
"All the world will stand with you together"? LOL nope, your "plan" is what the Palestinians did after 1948, what the Irish did after the Cromwellian wars, what the Bantu did under apartheid, what Indians did under the Raj, what China did under the Unequal Treaties. In each case, nothing changed until the oppressed were willing to organise and use force to gain leverage in negotiations. Israel is the world's largest foreign aid recipient. End the aid, end the genocide.
Yes, that time Palestinian establishment of country was failed, Palestinian should try it again, all of the world will support them.
Palestine HAS diplomatic recognition from more countries than Israel does. They have been "trying it again" every day. What they don't have are nuclear weapons, and friends with disproportionate power over Western politicians and media. They're not likely to get those, either, and neither are most of the world. What happened to Palestine could happen next to any of ~180 countries if they have something the powerful want, but don't want to pay for.