@c215902f Well, both of my grandfathers participated in two wars but haven't lived long as a result of German captivity for one and Communist captivity for the other. However, I still have uncle who is 95, fought in one war, not only smoked all his life but unfiltered cigarettes by dozens and spent most of his working life as a captain on a diesel submarine... I think a day of his life would kill most of the modern youths.