Oddbean new post about login | logout Were users of Tornado Cash running their own nodes / servers? I’m honestly not sure, but seems unlikely
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Thanks. I’m still not clear - were the Tornado Cash devs operating a central server? Or was every Etherium node performing that function?
This is the thing that I don't understand about ethereum & smart contracts. The contracts are supposed to be immutable, but there are operations that clearly aren't if tornado cash isn't operational.
Yeah that seems… broken. My rudimentary understanding was that “smart contracts” were executed by each node. But the whole system is so convoluted it’s hard to determine where the real dependencies are. If you’re saying the Tornado Cash “smart contract” stopped executing after the devs were arrested, that’s a pretty good indicator that there was some centralized server dependency. It’s sad and unjust, but not unexpected.
I looked around and someone forked the code and is updating it. Perhaps they are using it on tor? https://git.tornado.ws/tornadocontrib/tornado-cli
But it says this "List of rpc & relayers for withdrawal Refer https://chainlist.org for a full list of available public RPC URLs. Note that most of the RPC would censor sanctionded pool contracts. So either you can use the default RPC or find yourself a suitable one."
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I think that’s the main technical point you could argue in court, like you said above. If you’re running central servers to facilitate the “mixing” etc, plus taking a fee, I don’t see how you’re gonna win on a technical argument.