Darryl Cooper — aka [Martyrmade](https://www.martyrmade.com/) — has had a whirlwind of a couple of weeks. For those who don't know Cooper, he is a Twitter personality and podcaster who wades into some weighty subject matter. I first found him from a tweet that went viral back in 2021, which resonated with me so absolutely that I had to give him a follow. [ ![](https://image.nostr.build/9adb302e35e02d4e7fa854c9893873db6daed34e0d8b064ab79b72ebbd46cf00.png)](https://x.com/martyrmade/status/1413165168956088321) From there, I saw he was a history buff and had a podcast exploring complicated, deep, interesting topics that I have seen very few people explore. I started to listen and became hooked. Cooper's material is _long_. Some series go on for about 30 hours of podcast time. Don't let the length fool you, though; they are engaging in a way that I have yet to experience with history material. He explores topics with such incredible nuance and detail that you almost feel like you're there. He dives deep into each side's motivations, bringing the events to life in such vivid detail that you feel right in the middle of it all. Shilling for him aside, I wasn't the only one who became hooked and wanted to share his content. Joining me was Tucker Carlson, who had him on his [podcast](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOTgPEGYS2o), talking to him about a wide array of subjects. However, there was a particular spot in his podcast that caused quite a stir: Cooper's thoughts on WWII. Without diving into specifics, Cooper's analysis of WWII veered into territory that challenged some of the widely accepted narratives about the war. He predicted the backlash, noting that certain topics have become untouchable, akin to mythic lore. And sure enough, the media response was swift and harsh. The backlash was unnecessary and deeply disappointing, especially from some personalities I admire. For me, the most grotesque [response](https://www.thefp.com/p/niall-ferguson-history-and-anti-history?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=organic-social) was from Niall Ferguson. The subject matter of the response aside, the _way_ he responded, and the attacks he threw at Cooper were the most disappointing. I have no issue with historians who want to challenge his thoughts on the merits, but interestingly, to do that alone was rare. To start his response to Cooper, Ferguson talks of Tucker Carlson's description of Cooper as "the most important popular historian working in the United States today" as ridiculous because "...when I went to look for his books. There are none." **So yeah, Cooper is a charlatan because he hasn't written any books.** But as someone who likes and respects Niall — I have read two of his books, The Accent of Money and Civilization — I can say that as a historian, I can't recall a single thing from him. Unfortunately, I couldn't repeat one piece of information, insight, or overarching point he was trying to convey in either of those books. Although, I'll be the first to admit that I am sure they were well-researched and elegantly put together. While I respect Ferguson's research, his books felt distant and dry, like they were more concerned with academic posturing than engaging the reader. In contrast, Cooper's work draws you in emotionally, giving the history real weight and relevance. For example, I will always remember [Fear & Loathing in New Jerusalem](https://www.martyrmade.com/featured-podcasts/fear-loathing-in-the-new-jerusalem) by Cooper. I listened to all 26 hours- the equivalent of any book- and was hooked for two weeks straight. You can almost feel that it hurts him to get into the minds of those in the middle of these conflicts. The passion seems genuine, which makes the content much more accessible to digest and trust. Cooper doesn't just teach history; he makes you feel the weight of it. He made me fully appreciate how complex the issues in the Middle East were in a way that made me _actually_ feel educated on the subject. Interestingly, I didn't come out choosing a side, either. I came out understanding _why_ we are here where we are today and _why_ there are such passionate voices on both sides, which, for me, is far more significant. So yeah, sure — he hasn't written any books 🤷♂️. But is that what the goal of a historian should be? To write books? No, obviously not. A historian's role isn't just to churn out books or pile up credentials; it's to help people understand the complexities of the past and foster empathy for those who lived through it. For me, a good historian answers this question: **How did I help the audience better understand the complexities of the period I'm teaching, fostering empathy for the challenges and perspectives of the people of that time?** And with that goal, Cooper does that as well as anyone. Sometimes, I am unpleasantly reminded that even though they rail against their tactics, the conservatives can fall just as easily into the elitism of academic credentialism as progressives. Ironically, starting his argument with those cheap attacks made me roll my eyes rather than want to take his criticisms seriously. Ferguson's critique reflects a broader issue within academic circles—an overemphasis on credentials at the expense of real engagement or value-add with audiences and source material. But as the way we consume information shifts, so too must our understanding of what makes a historian valuable. At the end of the day, we shouldn't measure historical understanding by credentials or publications alone. It's about fostering empathy, grappling with nuance, and helping people grasp the complexities of the past. By that measure, Darryl Cooper is as much a historian as anyone—whether or not he's written a book. In a world where we increasingly consume information through podcasts and social media, perhaps the future of history looks a lot more like Darryl Cooper's work—engaging, empathetic, and free from the constraints of academia.
I listened to Tucker's interview with him. Nothing stood out as crazy. The only thing that stood out to me was that the death camps were only because they hadn't prepared for war prisoners and then they euthanized them because they didn't have enough food. I'd say that's very incorrect. One minor point is that Churchill did not specifically pick Dresden, a subordinate did. So I wouldn't blame Churchill specifically. But even Churchill called it terrorism: "It seems to me that the moment has come when the question of bombing of German cities simply for the sake of increasing the TERROR, though under other pretexts, should be reviewed." - Winston Churchill via the National Archives UK [emphasis mine] https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukgwa/20220202033902im_/https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/leaders-and-controversies/g1/images/g1cs3s3a.jpg
Yeah, for me, the "facts" aside, it was more the reactionary name-calling and credentialism that I found so disappointing.
This is what I wrote (and didn't previously publish) about that: IS DARRYL COOPER A HISTORIAN? Michael Shermer ASSERTS that Darryl Cooper is a pseudo-historian "...with pseudo-historian Darryl Cooper... even though I'm a PhD historian and I work and write regularly in the profession, I've never heard of Darryl Cooper." -Michael Shermer This actually appears to be quite dishonest to me. Michael Shermer is a science historian. But the area of history where he disagrees with Darryl Cooper is that of World War II, which is not an area of history that Michael Shermer is an expert in. But more fundamentally, Michael Shermer's apparent definition of a historian is tied up in... you guessed it, institutionalism. Apparently Darryl Cooper can't be a real historian if he isn't known as such in institutional circles. I vehemenetly disagree with this approach. A historian is any person who studies history. It does not require somebody to work within societal institutions. Darryl Cooper may or may not be wrong, but because he studied source material and came to a conclusion and wrote about it, and further because he also made that study a core part of his profession (as a podcaster about history), that makes him a bona fide historian, not a pseudo historian. Darryl Cooper claims he has read 80 books, parts of another 100, and 1200-1300 academic papers and journals on the history of Israel prior to 1948. I can't tell if he is exaggerating, but that is enough to qualify anybody as a real historian. From this he output 26 hours of podcast. It has taken him many years to produce the few podcasts that he has produced. The Martyr Made podcasts are very deeply researched. He has written no books, but books are simply not his medium. I conclude that Darryl Cooper is a historian.
Yeah I agree — the work alone and dedication to the subject matter puts him head and shoulders above “credentialed historians” for me mostly because he works so diligently around the motivations and empathy toward those outside the traditional narrative. Wrong or not — I’m here for it