Maybe they really want us to work on WoT and more advanced spam filtering 😅 

 LFG! And when I say, let’s, I mean the community, cuz I’m just a regular person that couldn’t code to save my life. But you get what I mean…. 

 Wot cuts out new people with no recourse for them to be discovered. Filtering non-nip5 verified profiles is a better solution.  

 New people could ping someone they know out of bound, or use ecash.

Nip5 can also be used if you have (web of) trusted domains, especially when something like Ditto takes off.

Client side muting still allows people to peak into their replies and repost/zap someone into their web of trust.

Different clients and relays can try a combination of things.
nostr:note1cjq2ucwkh83x43juvu7fs0nn5lwjz6a4vasxwz4478v04ql85f4s5dvhj9 

 * out of band 

 nip05 is not verification, its utterly trivial for spammers to have a nip05 

 They are going to purchase a new domain for each bot? 
Nip-5 providers would be incentivised not to let spamers use them less there whole domain gets muted. 
 

 This ☝️

Clients should allow Users to filter/mute by NIP05. No NIP05 then I don’t want to see your replies.

Put the onus on NIP05 providers to not allow their service to be abused by spammers lest all their community get filtered out, then spammers only have the option of doing it from their own domains which can more easily be blocked and will quickly cost too much to be worthwhile. 

 What are the best tools atm to achieve this? Bot filters with captchas?  

 Using relays with paid gateways to become whitelisted. 

https://relay.nostr.com.au for example ain’t relaying Reply Guys. 

 Cool concept! Does that really keep out bots or just make it more expansive to run bot nets at scale? 

 So, basically you pay to not get messages from bots and to be able to post on a bot free relay. Nicely aligned incentives. 

 Yes it keeps out the bots. They have to pay to have their npubs whitelisted and they ain’t doing that.

Spam only works when its marginal cost approaches zero. 

 would zapping the nip-05 provider for identification help? 

 Yes captas and non-free service would be tools for you. But you still may need to do some moderation as Nostr takes off more.  

 Makes sense. I will look into that. I can imagine some hard choices for moderators. 

 true, it says it in the doc that it's identification, not verification. i had that twisted myself initially.  

 Disruption 

 just a.kid with too much time on their hand probably, they do it exactly because it's easy to do and causes a lot of annoyance, was the same with IRC in the 90's 

 Phase 1: cause netsplit.
Phase 2: join empty channel with ops on split server.
Phase 3: wait for netsplit to resolve, deop all other ops and take over channel.

Until networks build advanced channel registrations.

Feeling all nostalgic now. 

 This was really bound to happen sooner or later and in all honesty this is the absolute least amount of annoyance they could cause. It could be so much worse. This is easy because better filtering will be introduced and we will be better prepared for the things that will be far worse. 

 I like Amethyst and I have it installed on a Pixel with a GrapheneOS.

But that phone stays in my apocalypse drawer until the actual apocalypse. I just can't stand Android UX and the crappy build quality of that device :-)

Oh and for testing of course. 

 No. No they didn't.  

 so...? Why don't I see any of those reply guys on #amethyst then? 

 Just mute

xDBupZD

and the reply guy is done.