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 Nostr should prioritize enabling IP privacy 
 use a vpn ? 
 Are you still considering implementing tor into Damus ? 🤔 
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 Yes please. 
 By the way, how much money per month would it take to make the Damus team solvent? 
 Every good client should and will have some kind of Tor integration. #amethyst was the pioneer in this regard, others will follow.
Nostr has the opportunity to nornalize tor usage.
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 I’m thinking freedom software should have best practices enabled by default.

VPNs may hide your IP address from the nostr relay, but most don’t hide your IP address and traffic from the VPN company, who probably even has your personal payment details 🍯. 

At some point, if we’re serious about defensable free speech and freedom to transact, we need to build privacy into the base layer. 
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 Also don't forget you can trigger the VPNs algorithm 
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 Never though of that. What would that do? Make them able to link your accounts I guess. We need privacy from the VPN. 
 For what I got the algo triggers if you repeat the same word. A friend who works for communications told me I should install the VPN when I need and uninstall, then repeat.
Anyway VPNs do their marketing so I don't know how much we can trust them, mostly for my own ignorance  
 If you use @Mullvad VPN you can pay with sats to protect your personal information. 
https://vpn.sovereign.engineering/ 
 That definitely helps, but they will still have your IP address, if they decide to collect it. You’re subject to their privacy policy and whether they can resist govt pressure. You’re forced to trust the VPN provider — which is not how privacy should be. 

There are some new VPNs that claim to have no ability to log your IP, but they’re not widespread. My point is only that we can’t expect normies to understand that they need a VPN and moreover which type of VPN to use. 

I’m suggesting that it’s better to just bake in privacy into the nostr protocol to benefit everyone, including non-technical folks. 
 Agreed. that's why I have two VPNs. At the end of the day your connection always goes through your ISP (encrypted or not) and it's relayed around the world by centralised DNS servers. There is no such thing as a private internet. Unfortunately.

Also most "free" VPN providers are just copies of other VPN services or even just tunnel through poor security of other providers. Naomi Brockwell made a video about this a few months ago. You'll find it on Odysee. Basically 90% on the app stores is just garbage and/or data collecting machines. Selling your information to their partners.

I second your notion of baking (more) privacy into nostr though not sure how to go about that and if that would be something the average person would grasp or endorse.