Oddbean new post about login | logout Bernie Sanders was always right about the Democratic Party. https://image.nostr.build/0e77b0edc5127c6e2444565001e82bf1f1e89b22d6f203968d9680682a3bc1b3.jpg https://image.nostr.build/c1f943d0969658ee0df8875c64d0ec59f1e9220f5e9bc8ada1470da33f4008cf.jpg
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Anything that requires the labor of another person is not a human right. How can people not understand this? Is sickening how entitled people are
Yeah, he really got shafted in 2016. Whether you agree with his politics or not. He was a better contender than Hilary. I think his days being the democrats lapdog are over.
He ain’t getting any younger.
Despite my opposition to his politics, I used to respect Bernie for his authenticity... but he just keeps endorsing puppets of the very oligarchy that he denounces.
Feels like he wants to start a new political party. It should be the orange party. And maybe purple. 🫡
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Such great insights but then that bit about health care being a human right. Aside from the implication that health care labor should be "free," the whole thing is built on a terrible model for medicine which incentivizes the use of interventions at the expense of actual health. But otherwise this is a nice surprise. It's amazing to watch so many on the left not recognize how dysfunctional and elitist the Dem party has become. Good for Bernie.
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hard not to. “Neither revolution nor reformation can ultimately change a society, rather you must tell a new powerful tale, one so persuasive that it sweeps away the old myths and becomes the preferred story, one so inclusive that it gathers all the bits of our past and our present into a coherent whole, one that even shines some light into the future so that we can take the next step… If you want to change a society, then you have to tell an alternative story.”
Possibly because they get some sort of kickback or meal ticket from their fluffing.
Yea its ridiculous. Double billing, inflated prices, supersize profits. PBMs explained here... https://youtu.be/vT0NNXYjQ_Y
Everyone in America currently has a right to healthcare (shouldn't be denied for discriminatory reasons). No one has the right to slave labor. (also why income taxes are immoral) America's healthcare industry is an enormous rat's nest. I don't think single-payer is the best answer. I'm not sure what is, but right now I do know insurance companies have WAY too much say in dictating care. Shifting all that to the federal government doesn't seem like the best solution.
Healthcare as a human right doesn’t mean enslavement of doctors. It means that no one should be deprived of basic care if they can’t afford it. The problem of course is that someone has to pay for it. If preventative care is accessible, people get less sick and don’t need to go to the emergency room for basic medical needs, which goes unpaid and drives up hospital costs for everyone else. So we either agree as a country to spread the risk around with a giant insurance pool, like we already do with Medicare, or we spread the cost of emergency care around, which is the more expensive and less efficient option.
I've been saying 60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck for alot longer than Bernie.... lol
Sort of. Bernie still doesn’t get it and the people who advise him don’t get it either. He is unelectable and dems know it, but Bernie doesn’t seem to get that.
I think he would have won 2016.
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I think if Bernie had won the Democratic nomination for the 2016 election, the dynamics of that time were such that he would have won, and Trump would have lost. The Dems only lost 2016 because Hillary was such a terrible candidate.
Bernie lost because the DNC would never let him make it past the primaries.
Yeah but he wouldn’t stand a chance either way
In 2016 he would have.
Nah.
I think you may be forgetting the political climate, and dynamics at play in 2016. Hillary was an awful candidate, and she only lost the electoral count because of Comey's 11th hour decision to release that letter about potential new evidence related to her emails (which turned out to be a nothingburger). She won the popular vote. Had Bernie been the candidate, in that moment, I am convinced he would have exceeded her performance and secured the electoral college as well as the popular vote. He had no baggage and was liked by pretty much everyone. In that contest, he would have prevailed.
Nah. But I’m done talking about this. Reminded again why I hate politics 😂 Back to bitcoin.
His extreme opinions were never popular with centrists, not then, not now. They would simply stay home.
I think you're largely correct. There ws a lot of party pressure to sandbag Bernie's campaign. He had a lot of support and momentum at the grassroots level, but when it came time for the party establishment to vote in the primaries, they didn't let him win. He won my state of Colorado, but you're right, they were never going to let him be the nominee.
Seems to me Bernie kept his mouth shut before the election. It's easy to speak truth when nothing's at stake.
Odd fact: Joe Bidet tossed Bernie under the bus by distancing himself from his policy stances in 2022 and Bernie lay down and did nothing. Bernie did nothing (?) when the Railworkers strike which had been under preparation for better part of a decade was crushed by an act of law signed by Bidet. Why is he speaking up now all of a sudden? You're late old man. Late, after having been a willing accomplice to the Bidet administration for four years. #us #politics nostr:nevent1qqsta57ah5qxkd7a7ha5tkg7znf28ezahzpsg2v25vzjrsu04ereqzqpzemhxue69uhhwmm59ehx7um5wgh8qctjw3uj7q3qaeh2zw4elewy5682lxc6xnlqzjnxksq303gwu2npfaxd49vmde6qxpqqqqqqz8eyh3q
Bernie talks a good game, but socialism isn't the answer to America's problems. There are people making 6-figures living paycheck to paycheck. You cannot legislate and "safety net" irresponsible spending. Ironically, the best safety net is no safety net. Humans will actually take care of themselves if they have to. People will be charitable to those in true need, America has always done this. Relative wealth inequality is irrelevant (other than a political football), so long as absolute wealth rises, which it has. America's poor are more wealthy than the average income person in the world. Finally, the way you get big money out of national politics is to make federal government less powerful so it isn't worth buying. Reduce the federal government back to it's original intended size. Centralization of power will always lead to corruption/waste. It is inevitable.
Bernie talks the talk. Sounds good after the election.
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we need a democracy of values not of politicians or political parties. universal values like liberty, justice, equity, fraternity, health, education and social welfare can exist without political parties.
Equity is socialist nonsense, not a universal value. Equity also contradicts liberty.
NO
People don't have equal skills and talents. Only way to make them equitable is by force. Equity is violence.
And always capitulated to it abjectly and totally.
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I always knew that Bernie was a dumb socialist. But he's apparently an antisemite too!
Could you not argue that you can be against a war without being against Jews? I mean, is he really antisemite?
Bernie Sanders is an old socialist, who was swept aside by the new woke socialists. His party is a party of war, racism and poverty/theft. Good riddance. I am so happy Trump was elected.
I'd call them technocrats, and yea, they're more insidious. I disagree with Mr. Sanders on a lot of points of policy and philosophy of how (and if) the state should function, but I don't find much wrong with his core attention to mutual aid. Technocrats on the other hand seem to be an almost mechanical sort of evil, complete with Malthusian agenda. Just as mechanization distorted the value of capital in the land+capital+labor+entrepreneurship/management = the economy equation to create 19th century Capitalism, and labor organizing distorted the value of labor to bring Socialism, so to are advanced data systems now tied into surveillance grids distorting the equation in favor of entrepreneurship/management bringing Technocracy. At the end of the day a harmonious balance between the different resources drives a just and prosperous society. When this is disrupted, especially abruptly, disharmony gets pretty wild.
Bernie has mansions.
The white pill take from this election for our country should be the importance of timely, fair, and open primaries. They are messy and uncomfortable but help people feel heard, involved, and represented.
the same democrats that threw him under the bus for $hillory
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lol dude bernie is part of the democrat party, I honestly dont see why people still think hes some selfless human being, the guy preaches that socialism is working to countries where prostitution is the #1 career of all females above the age of 12 thanks to the socialist dictatorial government, he can rot in a fucking hole for all i care, he just takes your money and pockets it, while pretending only people richer than him are evil
I lost a lot of respect for Bernie Sanders when he got railroaded in 2016 and he still endorsed Hillary which showed me he ain't based at all. Ron Paul refused to endorse Romney because he stands for something why he was so beloved. Bernie probably got paid off as well for a communist he does love easy money.
I don't think he was paid off, I think he was threatened and he bent the knee because he didn't have a choice. I was there, in Philadelphia, in 2016. I know how that system works. It was ugly.
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Hey, nobody’s perfect. 😂
