Oddbean new post about login | logout devs who can do bounties have big stacks of bitcoin already when multiple people take on a bounty, all but one have to be losers and thus betting on their own bitcoin stack they can make back their costs devs know that doing dev work is extremely stressful and bounties are the worst if you have competitors just look for a suitable dev, and trickle the budget out to them
Yeah I think bounties are worse than work-for-hire. It would be better for both parties IMHO if funded projects were put out as a work-for-hire contract, the contractor screened applicants and accepted just one, and paid out only if and when the work was completed to the spec that they specify up front. With bounties you get multiple devs working, people complaining that they helped and didn't get any of the bounty, people not capable of the task elbowing out people who are, and the contractor has a lot of uncertainty around whether or not someone is working on it.
competition is good tho. I think of this stuff like auditioning for a musical
well, let's not talk about the dark sides of this routine then shall we 😉 no, it's open to abuse in several ways, just pick a good candidate against their portfolios and reputations and run it like a normal contract
if you are learning you should not expect to be paid anyway. no artist who became great got paid for their 10,000 hours of practice.
Actually those learning should be paid the highest cost since the experienced devs are too busy pr burned out as you say and they wont pick up the work ! So why not get paid because you are learning too? And willing to contribute because rockstar devs are busy bandwagoning during summer camp?
Because unfortunately a lot the ones learning never finish their work and abandon halfway. That has been my recent experience, a lot of them
Ok ✅ fair enough! My GitHub https://github.com/turizspace send jobs, consistent ones . Bounties have disappeared lately! 😊
this entire thread is about a bounty!!!! scroll up to the top for the NWC-LNbits 2 part bounty ... its been almost 6 months, none of us active devs on lnbits have time to do it, and this isn't insanely hard either. no competition but you have to work to understand lightning if you don't already
Yes that i went through and i also agree with @mleku that the bounties model though nice it is not sustainable and perhaps why sometimes dont get picked up! It is sought of exhausting to run dev envs for each and every bounty when ones who are capable just want to be part of a team of have something long term with one 1️⃣ or 2 2️⃣ brands. Instead of hoping there shall be another bounty- i guess going back to the value for value model, how many bounties does a dev even a junior one have to complete until deemed worth of being part of the team having a solid role instead?
I'd tell you but I'm not sure you or the public would like to hear it
Tell me so i know when to stop 🛑
outperform me on github and then we can start to have a conversation. ;)
thats just it. I’m not here to compete or outperform anyone. I just started due to this need for devs lol 🤷♂️ so maybe ill stop when those who outperform you join the nostr protocol and start contributing?
i was being sarcastic. but more so than not, people should do things and finish them and talk less
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yeah, payment at the end is not so bad, if you aren't competing has to be a deadline also basically this is what grants are... person is chosen, and some schedule of payment is dictated by the work flow, and a partial payment or stipend regime with like weekly or monthly means also the grantor can cancel and stop bleeding money for nothing
frankly i think grants are much worse; subject to politico manipulation, a lot of handwaving and results often not delivered a lot of the budget wasted; really if you have seen how govt grants are this is how many end up. JUST F'CKING DO IT. There are NOT many people doing dev work in this space anyway so the chance anything is not going to get reviewed or recognized is pretty low. fwiw, if you are a new dev and you don't have work experience, this is a great way to get your work reviewed and improve. I don't think you can improve when you are in a silo, at all. of course you can chose never to improve and just rest on your laurels, that's fine too.
yes, i agree, but one has to pay the rent in the meantime i have learned from my first big grant task that i need to do more of my own basic work, like now with this radical rewrite of the library focused on minimising memory allocation - still my main time spent coding is going to be on paid work but i'm dedicating other the rest of my time, more than before, on this kind of work because the decisions you make under the gun are often bad ones... the last month of my last grant job was all taken up chasing bugs that the worst still are not gone
also, i am just doing it, and i have had some pretty awesome results on my own driven work, fastest nostr JSON encoder that exists, for #golang at least but i have to dedicate the majority of my time to projects i'm paid for... next coming up starting on tuesday once my dings are healed up is an aggregator for nostr and bluesky and then after that probably fixing the bad bugs in replicatr that take over 24 hours to manifest and make it unfit for production
