If you've any interest in #openSUSE #Aeon or #Kalpa or immutable desktops in general, I highly recommend giving Richards talk at #asg2023 a watch/listen. https://media.ccc.de/v/all-systems-go-2023-208-opensuse-aeon-desktop-linux-finally-done-right- Kalpa is following (or at least attempting to) follow the same design principles as Aeon, And this is a touch more challenging with a Plasma Desktop, than it is with Gnome, for many reasons, and it's the reason we move a bit slower.