@ff82dc5e So ... were you bare-handed leaping on alpacas today? Sounds ... interesting. One of my many horse farm jobs was at a pony farm. 200 ponies. Getting a halter on the little Dartmoor foals without getting kicked in the knee - had to sort of grab the critter length-wise and hold it against a wall, and hope the mare didn't go after you. Sigh. Those were the days!