yeah man sorry I was not being fair, there are people like you who talk about the importance of privacy aspect. I just meant that very few people have been as straightforward about how layer two privacy solutions are meaningless as long as there is no privacy on the main chain. it just feels like privacy IN bitcoin and not on it as an idea is frozen in time. every passing day chainalysis and spying tools like that are getting better but bitcoin is not in terms of privacy.