Oddbean new post about login | logout Counting is hard. Depending upon the time of day, Amethyst says I have either 500 or 10,000 followers 🙃
Could that mean that somehow they count the same npub times as many relays as you have, for example?
It's because not all relays respond in a timely manner and contact lists are different sometimes for different people on different relays. It's just not a good metric.
Got it. I stopped tracking it long ago. Like, my second week here 😂
I get it, people want to see the size of their audience to make sure they're not speaking into the void, but being engaged and social also helps this too.
I believe that this demand will be met in the future with clients focused on detailing npub audience with charts, tables, numbers and animated stuff #grownostr nostr:note18agvqpu3l5gmrx6vuhtf788k79chnd55aarljvr6zgn4mlxrqsjs3unznn
There are a lot of charts libs, the challenge is the algorithm that collects the audience information and converts it to graph structure
Ghosts of testnet3 addresses messing with you ...
What really counts is the content generated.
i feel like people are more interested in telling me how they feel about having follower counts than explaining why there’s such drastically different reports on them 😂
I’m more interested in telling you how I feel about the difference between blue and yellow corn, and why I prefer txt interfaces. 🙂
ok i’ll bite, why blue corn?
you should bite the blue corn. it’s the very best corn. twice the protein, twice the flavor. plus, you can post photos of your growing blue corn, and appear mysterious and knowledgeable about esoteric foods. you can also hang it in your house to dry for winter impressing visitors, while boasting of your 1/1024 Cherokee lineage like Elizabeth Warren.
how do you explain the blue corn chips taste a bit less tasty than the yellow + white corn ones
The fresh to dried conversion is opposite. Blue and purple corn, have much more flavor fresh, but become much more bland when dried. Not sure why. More sugars in the yellow and white? Dunno. But dried blue tortillas taste like cardboard
Counting follows is counting the number of contact lists you are on. Contact lists are large so relays will only allow you to pull so many at a time. To know how many people follow you is knowing every up to date contact list on every relay. Clients can’t really pull all of this information down, so depending which relays you are counting from you will get different numbers, but it will always be inaccurate. Follow counts are a centralized concept.
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I do like that I can see some of my followers with #damus (thanks Will & team). It's cool to look and see if anyone is posting cool stuff to follow back. I wonder if one day in the future there might be a way to easily find people who follow me that share interests and post somewhat frequently 🤞🤷♀️
i feel like i just got told by the captain of the starfleet why we can’t know the population of humans across the galaxy 🌌 🤣 🚀
How about as an addition to the follower list, the follower also sends a separate note tagged to the followed for notification?
Very good point especially for someone coming in new from classic twitter social media.
'Follow counts are a centralized concept' nostr:nevent1qqsq6nu8eu5xau90apsv0m4lnhswgdhfu5zg6j7akqlt0r5w0p92h8sppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qgsr9cvzwc652r4m83d86ykplrnm9dg5gwdvzzn8ameanlvut35wy3grqsqqqqqpc5u2pq
Surely this can be improved with a indexed, purpose built relay for follow lists. It doesn't matter what you think of the concept. People still want to know their follow count. It's not a centralized concept to want to gauge your reach.
Yes indexers are fine for this, but its hard to make core client features depend on single specialized servers which don’t have a spec. This is just asking for your app to stop working eventually. I try to avoid that as much as I can in damus. People can also spam contact lists and fake the count (primal shows me as 1 million followers when it’s probably more like 200k), so i’m not sure if it will ever be accurate. I don’t like lying to users.
@3xethical one of the best explanations I have found in regard to follower count.
Which is a good thing 😉 Also we don't see any spam bots and ads in the replies as well. If you wrote on X 1/4 of the replies are from spam bots which have profile photo of Asian girls with rich meals and rich life style, 1/4 ads, 1/4 complaining about the issue you mentioned and 1/4 crucifying you. And regarding this the follower count on X doesn't mean anything as well.
nostr:nprofile1qqsxlp6gw2n7na6tgnj5kaphzzuxtljzvd5gsl4yd8s2pd5xd3cnpuspzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqg5waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t0qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvfskueq99vfej aqui nessa thread vc encontra respostas do motivo de cada cliente mostrar um número de seguidores diferente do outro.