To achieve end-user programming where users can spin up personalized apps without knowing how to code, we need to start with end-programmer programming. Tune into the next Causal Islands podcast with special guest Steve Krouse as we discuss ways software engineers can build folk applications, integrations, and mini-apps to customize their experience interacting with third-party software. https://lu.ma/causalislandspodcast #programming https://sb-plnetwork.b-cdn.net/media_attachments/files/111/143/285/115/107/043/original/d11dbd68d73edc33.png