Amusingly, nostr doesn't have this problem. 

 ++1 

 For now… 

 Ok, "consensus is limited by communication speed". 

But, I should have added that L2 mitigates this. 

 Just thinking if one is being highly conceptual and speculative about AI and the implications of the machine consciousness, one should also be allowed to fantasize about an unknowable future where bitcoin is also not bound by the current constraints of today’s reality. 

 A consensus protocol will always be limited by the speed of communication. I've got nothing against interplanetary consensus, as long as we agree this requires faster than light communication. 

But, locking funds into an L2 lets you run a local economy of the locked in size. 

 You dont need faster than light comms, just longer blocktimes  

 As you stretch out block times it becomes easier for people to game the work factor. Might work for Mars... probably not out of the solar system. 

 It’s such a long off problem as well. 

Even in the next 500 years in an age of space exploration and discovery, the need for a hard money is small in a far flung outpost that’s largely dependent on trade back and forth from a home planet. Mining scarce minerals on an asteroid or exploring the moon of a gas giant for example. 

 Then all communication between the two parties, leaving you with effectively a hard fork. But that doesn’t mean that bitcoin is for earth, only. 

 If you leave earth with earth-level difficulty, you wouldn’t even be able to continue mining elsewhere anyways. You would have to use something else. 

 …for 2016 blocks. 

 You wouldn’t be able to mine a single block, and even if you somehow could grind it out, the difficulty adjustment is capped. It would effectively be stalled. 

 Ah, true. 

Well, looks like we will have to send miners ahead of people. Or build room on the ship for it. Plenty of room to build in space, and plenty of cooling. 

 There’s also the notion that by the time we are traveling far enough that maintaining consensus is difficult, my bet is that the on-chain hardly moves other than for large transfers. Tx rate will not be an issue. L2 and above will continue to be a ledger based on the underlying chain (and its more concrete nature). 

This seems totally doable. 

This also assumes no advancement in communications if we are traveling that far. 

I think something like an ansible is going to be possible *before* FTL is possible. For one, if we can manipulate gravity, we can modulate it. And we’re already listening to it (waves from black holes traveling near the speed of light). Gravitational waves have no speed limit. 

 If we’re talking fully conscious AGI let’s also entertain the idea that future solutions could exist that escape our current understanding of what’s possible with bitcoin bound by the speed of light. 

 You can adjust your constants based on the width of the lightcone... like how many blocks you wait for...