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 If you sell a physical product and you facilitate the transaction via Nostr, how do you safely collect the shipping information of the purchaser? 
 Not a nostr DM. You could use pgp. But a lot of people dont use that. I would prolly use something like simplex or whatever to get their address from them and then delete it as soon as I'm done creating a shipping label and putting the product out. 
 Great question, I often think about this. Some kind of self-destructing message would be ideal for peace of mind 
 Yeah but it’s easily copied before destruction, perhaps read only once then destruct.
 
 Oh for sure - I think if youre sending an address to a malicious person youre probably f'ed anyway

Mkre so thinking of a defense against disorganized people who keep your address forever and then one day lose thier phone etc 
 I've used Nostr DMs and SimpleX. 
 Have you tried 0xChat?  
 I have. It runs horribly for me. It's essentially unusable. 
 I kinda think the same. Will check on Simple X.  
 Oh sorry for the inconvenience. Have you tried the latest version, Derek? I fixed some performance issues. 
 Sometimes I see some delays in the chat on 0xchat.  
 Message delay or lag? 
 Lag or delay @bellatrix ? 
 Answered in his note. Thank you @idsera 🫂 
 It takes time to show up, I can preview it but then when I enter the chat I can not see anything. Sometimes it appears after minutes waiting into the conversation but I can not be sure it will. It’s not predictable.. I checked and I don’t have any auto delete option active. 

In the other hand I like the Cashu/Mints integration. That’s great. 
 thx for this information, I will check it   
 Some messages do not load in sequence. Then I need to go back to previous messages to check the response because for some reason they load later. But this doesn't happen all the time, it's intermittent. I was unsure if it had anything to do with the relay. In general, I really liked 0xchat. Btw, thank you 💜 
 thank you, so sometimes you can’t load the reply message?  
 I can reply, but sometimes the latest message come first than the previous one. Then I need to go back in order to see if the former msg loaded. 
 I believe I'm on the latest Google Play version. It's still very slugging and seems to not finish loading. There's always a spinning wheel in the middle of the app. I'm a bit unique with a large contact list and lots of DMs. It could be me and no necessarily the app. Keep up the great work. 
 oh damn, I still need to optimize it, hope you can smoothly use it next time.  
 I use 0xchat, not bad.  
 I would always use Simplex, but many of my buyers use Nostr's DMs. 
 I dunno, I just use Nostr DM, Y’know? 
 😆 I guess they can be seen by someone with the know how, which is why I’d not want someone to send it to me via that channel, and also why I don’t really use them 😅 
 if an npub account is used by someone that wants any level of anonymity, putting ones shipping info in a signed message that could be exposed is prolly not a good idea.

 another good option is to use simpleX, you can make a burner user for each transaction in a few clicks. 
 There's no good way to do this without an address being exchanged.  
 Customer using some collection point address instead of home?  
 Coolest method I’ve experienced was suggested by @papaslag 🔥 https://image.nostr.build/070eb190763eeb148508d54ee704284a962d9a8c5ac0974417db30dadaf96f95.jpg  
 Appreciate it! Love this service! Thanks @Start9 
 great question! 
I was curious about this too, to ship fresh roasted coffee beans!