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Gojiberra | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 i am thinking along the lines of "censorship resistant" so i was imagining self-healing network.   

so i was mainly worrying about the opposite which would be, you plug in your relay with wisdom, and it gets immediately truncated because the network has issued delete requests for those notes.

perhaps some people will make lists of "Do-not-delete notes" for wisdom . so these can always be persist if there is demand from the users and will from relays.
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mleku | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 i don't think you really understood what i just said

deleting requires you to at least leave the tombstone around for long enough that all replicas implement the intent of the publisher

but that is completely and utterly naive because someone probably has a value in keeping all of the data and nobody can force them to delete it

if your system depends on virtue to function it's fucked

at minimum you can count on the spook agencies throwing their infinity funding pool from all the coke smuggling into paying for infinity storage to keep everything

i'm not "worried" about anything it's simply going to happen, and if you want to live in the real world and not be shocked by how things actually work, try to think through the scenario that we are discussing in full detail and realise that hoping everyone is deleting something that is already out there is foolish

they aren't, and they won't

and for the sake of actual protocol, the delete event needs to continue to exist as long as possible

from a data storage and especially now SSD operational principles perspective, deleting events is also... EXPENSIVE because every time you rewrite a block it gets one write closer to death
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Gojiberra | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 rereading everything, and i think I understand better. making a personal note to reread your notes 'cause there's  lot of info density per sentence. thank you for explaining
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mleku | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 i do kinda enjoy explaining things, there is a bit of the teacher in me, but it also infuriates me how often i have to repeat myself, and nobody's gonna pay me to do this so i should probably stop doing it so much