Oddbean new post about login | logout What feature can nostr clients include that scale with usage, creating essentially unlimited revenue per user?
Ads. :)
That’s not a feature that’s a bug ser 😂
Do you want unlimited revenue or not? :)
Yeah but I’m thinking more in line with features a user may want that take up resources and require topping up.
So, a server rental model. Good money, but not unlimited. If you want to go big, ads is the only proven model at the moment. The three main business models (and incentive schemes) are: - ads (make users buy as much as possible) - rev share (make users zap as much as possible) - server rental (make users use the attached services as much as possible). Ads is by far the largest compared to the other two. Everything else is small business.
what about a model where people pay it forward. if we had a way to pool capital and invest that capital to generate a revenue stream, that revenue stream could be used to help pay developers. That's an idea that I have had forever, and it makes sense on a firm monetary foundation like Bitcoin. and the main income stream that we have is Bitcoin mining itself. so we would need mining pools set up to receive the capital pools.
Then your product is a security (an investment product), like GBTC for instance. Endowments tend to work like that. The downside is that you can only use the extra profits after adjusted for inflation, which usually means that you have to group billions to take hundreds of thousands of dollars to be competitive with similar products in the market.
On a pure Bitcoin based system, inflation doesn't really play a role. But I hear what you are saying. We would need institutional support for something like this within the US, and the SEC would want to put their thumb on the scale no matter where it was based if US Citizens are putting capital into it. I HATE ads. I hate the advertising model as much as I hate fiat itself. There has got to be a better way to do this.
A wallet, taking a % of each transaction.
@damus feature that could scale https://m.primal.net/Hutw.jpg
Also get rid of the like buttons. Push along the cultural shift towards a v4v model.
I don’t like this idea. I use the like button a lot and I still zap.
Why do we need both?
Most people don’t have a wallet on nostr. Only like 4% do. You’d be removing one of the most essential social signaling mechanisms. I think that would spell certain death.
Wow. Really? Only 4%? I agree with you. Just didn’t realize it was that low.
Look up nostr.band stats. I could be wrong but I think that’s the number I saw a while back.
For active users it’s probably higher. We have a lot more active bitcoiners than the general nostr user base.
This will sound absolutely insane. Imagine if there is a way in clients to add/remove "extensions". Example: I am on #Damus, I can click add Zap.stream it will be added in the menu. And you get a light weight Zap.stream view with - minimal functionality. Damus becomes my signer as well. Profit.
This was the route I wanted snort to take - widgets on paid plans.
One of the things that are yet to be explored are micropayments. Micropayments meaning not subscriptions. Actually micro-payments for micro-services. I’m actually thinking of implementing this on my todo list app. For example (and you can extrapolate from here to other creative micro-services), translation. Translate one note for 5 sats on the spot. Available for all. Not translation is not a very good example since everyone provides it. But I am sure devs can be creative. 5 sats to cross-post note to <app name here> 5 sats to pin note to profile description. I don’t know… so many things could come of this.
