you mistake me for your retarded followers - i am not going to fall for this trick like they do just like Don Quixote was tilting at windmills and just as Israeli Jews must see Hitler in everybody, including in small Palestinian children, so Carnivores must see Vegans everywhere - this is the nature of cults Cults cannot exist without an imaginary enemy which gives them their identity - this is well known in politics - no form of identity is more powerful than that based on a common enemy - whether real or imaginary. if no real enemy exists it must be invented. your "haha it was a joke" act is falling on deaf ears because your entire carnivore cult depends on this "joke" for its very survival. you CAN NOT let go of this delusion that you are surrounded by Vegans everywhere because then you would have to deal with real questions like "what is so wrong with eating berries" ? the answer is NOTHING. there is NOTHING wrong with eating berries. and in fact Berries are a better source of Vitamin C than anything your followers consume and yes in fact even on Keto diet you still need Vitamin C, despite all your lies and pretending to be science based. no in fact there is nothing scientific about the lie spread by the likes of Amber O Hearn that Carnivores do not need Vitamin C. but if you were to admit this truth then your entire scam falls apart - Carnivore is no longer a perfect diet - just a stupid fad. the refuge of a scoundrel is then to point to other scoundrels ( Vegans ) to deflect from the matter at hand ... your scam is well understood by me and there is nothing you can do to stop me from teaching it to others. granted, i have 140 IQ and only people with IQ above 120 actually are able to follow me so my followers and yours are non-overlapping sets as only retards would listen to a piece of filth like you @KenDBerryMD