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 nostr:npub1lzz05275zkk6zwuzel45jusr74ftyyuah8zll8vl09k98w8smy7qedjhl3 I hear what you're saying, the only problem is that they're still imposing religious views on others - it's just that in these cases we feel the same on these issues so it works out. 

As far as Catholocism goes, the wreckage it has left through history can't be justified by a few folks that managed to find reinforcement on things they should have been doing anyway.

I do respect your point of view - no caveats, and I'm not saying everyone who's religious is a bad person.