Oddbean new post about login | logout I don't know the answer on how we grow nostr but pretty sure we need more than a hashtag Maybe we need some kind of workflow so anytime a big account is suspended on Twitter or YouTube that reaches our to them or something? Just thinking out loud
I once again challenge the giga brain devs: Step 1: Auto identify and curate list of banned accounts from twitter. Step 2: Invite said account + followers to nostr explaining the unique value prop of nostr. cc @fiatjaf
This is a good place to start: https://findmyfrens.net/ A list of people who are/were often banned from twitter and made a place to go check their new accounts.
Why "auto"? https://paulgraham.com/ds.html
I am doing things that dont scale, as are many on nostr. Having an auto generated shortlist is like outbound sales lead gen. There is some basic criteria, for instance: 1) banned from twitter 2) minimum X followers, Y years account etc. Then we get @damus @primal @Derek Ross and other somewhat active nostr accounts on twitter ( for social proof, if no other reason ) to reach out. Only the first step is automated (seems trivial to my non dev eyes). Unless @fiatjaf you volunteer your time for lead gen.
I believe this thing you think is trivial is actually absolutely impossible. Even if Twitter voluntarily gave us programmatic access to their stats and a way to query them (which they probably don't, even if we pay the elon price) then how would we get the data for accounts that were already banned? These would not be available. In any case I think automating the first step is also not very good, if you're going to approach someone with a crazy idea it's probably better if you know them at least a little bit instead of just having taken their name from a list.
Agree with you. On all but the last part. People are on nostr today not because its a 10x better experience. They are on nostr because of the ethos, and the potential of nostr. Between ten to a hundred missionaries the world is smaller than you might think.
Does nostr have spaces, clubhouse?
Nostrnests and cornychat lol but yes
Onboarding needs to be way easier. Gamification would help. Biggest hurdle every client faces
What do you guys think is the biggest issues with onboarding beyond key security?
Diversity of views.
I'd argue that's more of a retention thing 😉😂
I tell people about nostr, but don't push hard since there's probably no community for them, and they won't build it themselves. Retention is key to growth and reaching the tipping point. I met a fellow Quaker here who asked a good question. The answer is "Yes," but she'll likely have to wade through lots of posts she dislikes. More likely, she'll just leave and tell others it's a Bitcoin libertarian hangout. https://primal.net/e/note1v2gjrsc5kgc043a3qmxxu9mwtmy0u066yggyjjc0eeegy0dyyevqk6r435
Funny enough, the link tells me it can't be found.
😂 Here's what she posted: "Curious to know if exploring these worlds requires an appreciation of bitcoin bc I do not have that and am not interested in changing my mind about it. Are there others with a similar stance on bitcoin here in however-we-describe-this?"
That is definitely an on-going dilemma only easily solved at the individual level... but that's like herding chickens
Bitcoin adoption in general Zaps are the only heavy incentive atm, but most people don’t value them yet.
Nostr does not need marketing. We live in an attention economy, dopamine driven NPC's will hate nostr. Let's keep it that way. Many nostriches came here to flee that system after all.
I strongly disagree with this idea. Our purpose isn't to be a safe space for bitcoiners, it's to provide a free speech protocol to the world. Imho
Just kidding. Of course we need more nostriches and network effects to reach full potential. One solution is to provide so much value it can't be ignored plus meme them into oblivion using our ghost accounts. So, let's build even more products and services that use NSEC as the only identifier.
Maybe we can use more 'conversational design' best practices instead of page based interactions so it feels more alive instead of static. Subtle micro animations work as well to engage and captivate users. What most clients lack is support for gestures (swipes) to make it feel more smooth.
It needs an UBER hacker to do their thang and put out a strobe effect #grownostr advertisement on global TV channels during peak hours. Surely that's easy enough to do. Right, right🤔.
We can't really have workflow when we suck so bad at onboarding. It's slowly getting better.
I hate to be reductionist, but it’s going to take a few infloozies to get this thing popping. Step 1: get Kim Kardashian banned from X Step 3: profit